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shaggs2riches
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Still Waiting
I'm just curious from you guys what the longest you ever had to wait for a kite to come once ordered. I ordered my first kite over 6 weeks ago and it
still hasn't been shipped out. I ordered a 2010 6m ozone access xt and have been told that there aren't any in North America as of yet. I don't want
to be pushy to the salesman but when I ordered the kite in September I was told that by the end of that week 2010 stock would be in; and, if I waited
till then for it to be shipped out then I could get one of those instead of a 2009 model. Six weeks later I still haven't got a tracking # saying that
it was shipped. Sorry for ranting here but I'm just curious if anyone else has had to wait this long. I get that with customs and new inventory it can
take a while; so, I don't want to push the guy to much with the question "how much longer is it gonna take?" I just don't want to come across as an
#@%$#! to this guy that's all. Any input would be great. Thanks.:puzzled:
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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Ozone takes a long time to get items in stock. This is why Ozone has/had a strict policy that no online retailer could list a item if it was not in
stock.
I wish you luck on getting your kite soon. The access is a nice kite it is very similar to the HQ apex II's that I fly 
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I waited so long once for a Peter Lynn Charger that I ended up getting a different kite....
Kites:PL Hornet 2.0m, 15m Synergy
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After that much time the dealer should give you your money back if you ask. It isn't the dealers fault since he isn't in charge of production. He
can only ship it when Ozone gets it to him. If you would rather have some other kite instead of the 2010 model then get your refund or get a
different kite from that dealer. Otherwise, you just have to wait. Like Forgiven says, the Chargers were supposed to be out at the end of July. Due
to production issues and other kites lines from PL selling well, they have had to make decisions about what to produce in the factory. Many of us
have done something else in the 3 month delay. Maybe you should too. I wouldn't have paid for a kite that isn't at least on its way to the dealer
from the mfr. or can be when his order is placed.
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Yeah. I'd see if you could get a refund and then talk to Mueller Windsports based out of Cochrane. They carry Ozone stuff (have for a long time) and
might be able to hook you up quicker - and on the Canadian dollar which will be worse now compared to the US than it was when you bought your kite.
Keep the big picture in mind - no surprise fees at the border, better exchange etc. Of course you then have GST but it may end up worth it in the long
run. I ordered my Access from Colorado kite force and had it I think within three weeks and that was after shipping it to Arizona so friends could
ship it to me.
Hate to say it, but good luck with it - there is a chance you're dealing with a smaller dealer who will have used your money to place the order and
won't refund you. Let us know how it goes....there are others here that can learn from your experiences, good or bad.
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shaggs2riches
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yeah I really do want this kite. I do however want to get flying something soon so I have been thinking of giving him at least till the end of this
week to get me a definite answer of when I can expect the kite or I will try to arrange something else with him. He already sent me my harness and
spreader bar so, I would hope that if all goes wrong with the kite I have on order, he may have something else that I can get that is just as good of
quality. I guess I waited this long it probably won't hurt to wait 4 or 5 more days for an answer.
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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Dude, the Access is such a solid kite though. Make sure you check in here before you accept any substitutions.
Just checked their website and from outward appearances I'd say they were a big enough place to trust - and to expect you could halt the process and
get a refund on the kite. Also seems like any substitution would have to be an Ozone or SLingshot since that's all they carry. Call around to other
shops and see if anyone has stock. Maybe they are facing the same issues all the other manufacturers seem to be having (Chargers are still not out).
Rumor has it you can get a custom Flysurfer in 6-8 weeks and that's basically a kite that is just a bunch of piles of fabric when your credit card
number gets to them. Your kite SHOULD be in your closet by now I'd think.
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Bomba 15 | Phantom 15/18 | Venom 13 | Slingshot T3 9/11/14m
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Maven454
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No one can get a 2010 Ozone Access/Frenzy/Manta yet as far as I can tell.
"I gave up on wind speeds... its either crappy, gravy, epic, or stupid... in that order"
--Drewculous
Ozone: Imp III Quattro 1m and 1.5m, Flow 2m, 3m, 4m, and 5m.
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I once waited almost a year for a kite (the PL Guerilla II 22m when they first came out) but we won't go there. 
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bigkahuna, in reply to your signature. The HQ Scout on a bar is a four line kite. Not a three line.
"I gave up on wind speeds... its either crappy, gravy, epic, or stupid... in that order"
--Drewculous
Ozone: Imp III Quattro 1m and 1.5m, Flow 2m, 3m, 4m, and 5m.
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Thanks Maven. Looking at your sig, I'd say you're the expert on that subject. 
How 'bout sending one or two of those toys south?
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I had to wait almost a month for my Speed 3, the first batch sold out before they came in (pre-sales), and the second batch got held up in customs. It
was worth the wait though. Personally, I'd say hold out a little longer if you can. The Ozone Access kites are very nice, and I'm sure you'll be quite
happy with it when you get it. You could see if he has any 2009 models available for you to play with until the 2010 comes in. Just depends on how
much longer you want to wait...
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Quote: | Originally posted by shaggs2riches
Sorry for ranting here but I'm just curious if anyone else has had to wait this long. I get that with customs and new inventory it can take a while;
so, I don't want to push the guy to much with the question "how much longer is it gonna take?" I just don't want to come across as an #@%$#! to this
guy that's all. Any input would be great. |
Not a foil, but the longest I have waited for a kite is 6-7 months. I knew in advance it was going to be a wait, so I didn't have any RSN
expectations. I basically told to dealer... "ship it out when you get it." To be fair, it was not remotely the outlay of cash as the Access. You
never said whether you CC had already been charged.
Have you do business with this dealer before? I think I would just call them up and ask for a realistic ETA, with the understanding that past a
certain point you have the option of walking away.
Before you have that conversation, you might need to suss out for yourself what your realistic pain thresold is.
After the first snow, how long before you beat yourself unconscious banging your head against the wall?
If you hadn't made the committment, how long a release date slippage would have had you diving for another kite? I mean if Ozone contacted their
dealers tomorrow and said... "Sorry.... 2010 Kites won't be to you until mmddyyyy. " Where's your breaking point?
If you're worried about nagging the dealer, it depends on if he gave a new ETA or not? Checking in once every 7-10 days doesn't seem unreasonable if
an updated ETA hasn't been provided. Emails are probably less intrusive. If you are phoning, I might opt for 15-30 minutes from store opening before
the day is in full swing and he is juggling multiple customers.
ATB,
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shaggs2riches
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Thanks guys!
I feel quite a bit longer about waiting. I messaged the guy today with a simple hello and just wondering if the kite has come in yet, and still no
answer as of yet. I don't believe there is anything to be worried about with the dealer himself. I just think that he may have jumped the gun by
saying that the kite would be in soon, when in reality he never knew when it actually would be in stock. I'm really crossing my fingers though that
the kite may be available this week for shipment. To answer the question, yes my cc already has been charged, so I'm starting to think that he used
those funds to order the kite and that he never actually had the kite on order. But I could be wrong on that one. I will keep you guys posted, but for
now I think that I will hold out for a little while longer. The reviews that I have been reading say that it is a much much better kite than last
years model. One review that I found randomly through a google search said that it started to compare closer to the frenzy than they anticipated ( but
I don't know how much one would believe that). This will be my first kite so I won't know any different I guess; but, as long as it comes without
defects and I can get it off the ground I will be happy. Again thanks guys.
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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I'd talked to Windzup (the US Ozone distributor) back at the beginning of October and was told that they should have the Frenzy around the middle of
October. So it's possible that your dealer was also misinformed.
"I gave up on wind speeds... its either crappy, gravy, epic, or stupid... in that order"
--Drewculous
Ozone: Imp III Quattro 1m and 1.5m, Flow 2m, 3m, 4m, and 5m.
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Quote: | Originally posted by f0rgiv3n
I waited so long once for a Peter Lynn Charger that I ended up getting a different kite.... |
I am afraid that Peter Lynn is losing out daily with this. Even the Synergy is pretty much sold out ?
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
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Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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Quote: |
I am afraid that Peter Lynn is losing out daily with this. Even the Synergy is pretty much sold out ?
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I believe the Synergy is pretty much sold out. I ordered the last 2 15m Synergy's and received them yesterday. The only other size they had a few
weeks ago was the 12m.
On that subject, who makes harness for BIG guys. 270
Mike
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Buggy: VTT BLACK WIDOW...The best
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The new Mystic Shadow harness comes in a xxl, http://www.kiteboarding.com/proddetail.asp?prod=mystic%5F201...
The Dakine seat harness also comes in an xxl. Worth taking a look at if you are interested. They also have the Ozone Access XC lasted on the site, but
that harness is one-size-fits-all. I have one, and have to pull the straps in pretty far to make it fit me. Not sure if it would work for you. If you
were close, I'd let you try it out...
Best of luck...
edit: Um.. wow, they have LOTS of harnesses listed on that website. You have to look around a bit, but there are tons... Hope you can find something
you like...
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Yeah they found one more Syn 15 for me last week that had been to the Sahara and back but not unpacked.
They have 12's in all colors but that is it.
Ozone kites can be hard for dealers to get. Accessories like harnesses and control gear is a little easier.
Akulakat, the Ozone XC harness is sized large to go over snow clothes so might fit the bill. I have heard of Dakine doing custom stuff for large
guys.
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i said it once before ... every factory needs to employ more elves.
delays happen with all top brands, its unstoppable. too much demand. just be happy that most manufactures are willing to split the amount with the USA
/ Canada market.
most things are back-ordered right now.
yes, there is no more Syn 15m
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Mine hasn't found any wind yet. Do I win the prize of the last new 15m synergy? That would be a nice consolation for no wind since I got it.
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Ironically, the last new 15m Synergy - the one that made the trip to the Sahara but never flown - is gong to Saudi Arabia. Good, so the new owner
won't mind some desert dust on the bag.
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shaggs2riches
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It looks like I'm gonna get my kite soon!:puzzled: I got a phone call from my dealer saying that he has one kite come in. He said that he also got an
e-mail stating that there is a possibility of a waiting period that could be as long as 2 months before he gets any other 2010 kites. Not a guarantee,
but they could come as early as three weeks from now too. The reason he called me is because I have been the only one showing an eagerness to get my
kite out of some 30 orders. If I didn't want to chance it for the possibility of waiting another possible 8 weeks I could take the one he got in.
Catch was that it was a color that I definitely would not have ever thought of getting, a limited run (or so he says anyway) Black, Grey, and Pink
kite. It took me quite a bit of humming and hawing weighing out the options. I really didn't want the color, but I didn't want to wait for a possible
two more months. I know that the color isn't what most would consider an awesome color to have, but in the end I decided that a kite was a kite and if
it was still the same kite, why should the color matter all that much. My wife has been getting interested in kiting recently so maybe I could end up
passing it down to her when she finally decides to give it a try. So yeah, I know that there is a chance that the other kites could show up sooner
than expected but I'm tired of waiting I just want to get flying. Again thanks for all your guy's comments I appreciate it. :bigok:
shaggs
p.s. I'll post pics when it comes in.
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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You will forget what color it is when it really counts. (When it's flying) I always fret about what color to order when I have a choice but when I
ordered my 15m synergy, I gave a preferenced order of colors and didn't know what I got till I unpacked it. Dakitez said it was a surprise since I
got my first choice. But I really didn't care which color it ended up being.
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PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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I've seen that color scheme, and I think it looks great (but imho the rasta scheme will always be the best, and it has been discontinued)
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shaggs2riches
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actually does anyone have an image of what this scheme will look like?? I've looked all over google and I can't find one.:dunno:
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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I don't know, I'm rather confused. I didn't think that was an available color scheme for an Ozone Access. That is still what we're talking about,
right?
"I gave up on wind speeds... its either crappy, gravy, epic, or stupid... in that order"
--Drewculous
Ozone: Imp III Quattro 1m and 1.5m, Flow 2m, 3m, 4m, and 5m.
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Quote: | Originally posted by shaggs2riches
"Catch was that it was a color that I definitely would not have ever thought of getting, a limited run (or so he says anyway) Black,
Grey, and Pink kite. " |
As a general rule, limited runs are generally non-stock colors.... think the Punk (Pink) Flexifoils..... standard products in non-standard colors.
Now if only we could get them to do a run in either - Black/Gold (not yellow)/Grey
- Black/Red/Grey or
- Dark Grey/Orange/Red
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Color? schmolor. Who cares what it looks like, as long as it flies!
Flysurfer Speed 3 15m DELUXE
Flysurfer Speed 3 12m
Flysurfer Psycho4 8m
Peter Lynn Buggy
Twisted Velocity (164)
Spleene (Monster) Door 164x50 (for sale?)
FlyDoor XL (2013)
2011 Spleene RS 132
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shaggs2riches
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yep I'm now in a state where I'm quite interested in what this kite will look like. What shade of pink will it be? will it resemble older access2
kites with the pink, gray, and blue scheme? I'm eager to get it now. Yeah this is still a 2010 access xt. But like stated above by a few people, I'm
at the point where it don't matter what it looks like as long as it does the job. 
I'm definitely happy that he called me giving me this option.
what I fly/ride:
19m Flysurfer Speed 2 SA
12m Flysurfer Speed2
6m Ozone access xt
1.5m Ozone imp trainer
144cm Airush Switch
152cm lib tech skate banana
MBS Pro 90
Jereme Leafe Pro 95
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