just looking for a 5m kite

I voted for a 3m and no harness till you get some time in on the kite

well I guess I'll do the honors this time. 5m is too big a kite for a rookie. you need 3m and learn to fly first ,then get 5m and have fun instead of atrip to ER w/ compound fracture of femur.

how was that? nuff said ? sorry dude , just funnin w/ ya. welcome to the forum and 5m is still too big ! :wee:

Iv flown them before just not with a kiteboard

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Originally posted by xsv21 Iv flown them before just not with a kiteboard

this I like to hear. Some experience is definitely much better than the way you made your first post out to be. I took it as you never flew a kite before. Sorry for the misunderstanding. A next good question would be what have you flown previously ad in what kind of conditions. Do you want fixed bridle or de-power?

I have done no foils before but some big 2 line kites in very windy conditions,

for snowkiting, what do u think?
I don't really know a difference but I like the idea of a depower

Next question,

By 2 line kites do you mean stunt kites? if Yes, then go back to getting the 3m learn how to handle the power first.


Ive had a guy who weighs in at about 260lbs get his butt handed to him off my 4.9m kite.

I am 200 lb & 5'-10" and graduated from 2 & 3m parafoil 2 line kites into a 5.5m fixed bridle. You will be amazed at the extra power in a 4 line kite and what gusty inland conditions will do to you. After getting my butt kicked a few too many times I bought a 3m and still use it a lot. I'm with the rest of the guys - start with a 3m on handles and a strop if you want to use a harness. Then buy your 5m+ for jumping, and your 19m SA for light wind days, and your ....

Always wear a helmet too.

i need to grab a 19m SA... if only i had the money ...

i have lots of experience flying and i broke out my 3meter beamer in 15-20 mph winds yesterday and its still stimulating for me, so thats what you probably should start out with--but not in 15-20 winds--more like 5-10.........

4m and up for beginners, some shops are selling these sizes to newbs. guess they're trying to make a quick buck.

+1 for ...
3m (FB) is the perfect size to learn than grow too. great in average winds for learning and in high winds it will be become your engine.

on the flip side, a 5m or 6m Depower Open Foil is also an option too. if you go this route, pick-up a trainer foil than.

M pretty sure iv narrowed it to a 5 or 6m with a depower bar

M pretty sure iv narrowed it to a 5 or 6m with a depower bar

Hey man, you might have the right idea now but it sounds like you might need to do some reading up:
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=1985

It has to be a depower kite in order for you to use a depower bar.

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Originally posted ripsessionkites 4m and up for beginners, some shops are selling these sizes to newbs. guess they're trying to make a quick buck.

In all fairness, when a buyer chooses to ignore warnings and caveats such as:

• We require a liability release before shipping the 3M, 4M and 5M sizes.
  
  
• By purchasing these kites you agree to be solely responsible for any damage or injury that may occur while using the kite. Acme Kites & Explosives assumes no responsibility or liability for any damage or injury that may result.
  
  
• WARNING THIS KITE IS FOR EXPERIENCE KITERS. WE HAVE HAD SEVERAL BEGINNERS CALL ABOUT THIS KITES, PLEASE CONSIDER A RAGE OR STING IF YOU ARE JUST GETTING INTO TRACTION KITES. (Regarding Blades).

Some folks are going to run the edge of the crumbling cliff no matter how much razor wire you put up.

There's something to be said for personal culpability.

ATB,
Sam

Well I'm looking for a kite that is great for snowkiting but will allow me to to get some air.

You might be able to get a hold of an HQ montana for a good price, or an Ozone Access... But those are going to be over $400. Those are the cheaper ones too... you also need to get a harness. I'm tellin' ya dude read that article I posted, it'll make you an informed kiter! If you do end up getting a larger Depower kite as your first kite see if you have any locals to show you the ropes so you don't make any huge mistakes the first couple times you go out.

We're not tryin' to scare you away just trying to put some sense into ya to let you know... RESPECT the kite. There's a lot to it! Read up man.

Here:
http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=10392

check with dakitez to see if he still has the apex II

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=11314

here is a nice U-Turn for sale...

Please heed the advice these guys are giving you. If you get roughed up real bad the first time out with a foil to big for your experience, you may turn away from kiting, or even worse turn someone else away from kiting.

I get what ur all sayin, just lookin for a kite that I can use and have a bat and stuff, but I don't know the difference so I'll read up an keep the ideas comin

It is great that you are asking these questions BEFORE spending money.

While you are correct that a depower kite will be the most suitable for snow kiting unless it is always windy a 5 or 6m depower will let you down.
A 6m Depower NEEDS 15++ mph winds to start performing and you won't jump well with it until the 20's +.
Search for a good 3m fixed bridle to learn on. Don't be fooled . I got my 1st snow runs on a 3m kite and it had plenty of power. It is the fastest / safest way to get started. Shortly after you can pick up something more like a 10m Depower to take it to the next level and start jumping safely. The 3m will still come out when it is too windy to handle your 10 so it won't be waisted money.

It sucks but the fact is you will end up NEEDING more than one kite.

That Uturn is WAY too much kite ( I am shocked that the seller rates it as a beginer kite ) , the buster would have been ideal.

Thanks, so can I jump with a bridal? If it's big enough

Yes but you run in to that size issue again.

You can get lifted with any size kite given enough wind and the proper motions. The thing is you need to have some float to land safely. A 5m kite or larger ( depending on your size ) is about the smallest that will give you that float. Bigger is even better.

Having a 3m kite to teach yourself a bit more safely how to control the kite for jumping is the best way to go BY FAR. You don't just grab a kite one day and start to fly ( unless you are Top Hat ). You need to gain some basic skills 1st .

We ALL understand your hestation toward the 3m but trust us . No one comes back and says, " I waisted time with that 3m " . Many talk about how they got beaten up by a 5m and regret going too big too fast.

No one actually just has one kite that they can do it all with !

Right, k but I'm from Milwaukee we don't have strong winds like other places do, I'm looking to get into it with a friend, we will hve 2 ppl there to back up someone if something goes wrong, I don't have much money, and no job, I have a little amount to but a kite that will last me for a low/mid range of wind

look in the for sale section, you can find some deals .It just won't be crispy as new, but still have some miles in it. Some guys sell off to help pay for new models. Just don't rush in,look around first.

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Originally posted by WELDNGOD Just don't rush in,look around first.

This is the best advice of all.

If you don't have a lot of money then don't move too fast.

That 4m Brooza is looking like a good option ???? Particularily if you really do have low winds. Good kite, GREAT price.

i used to live in wisconsin--milwaukee is plenty windy--i hope you decide on a 3m or something along those lines--to do otherwise is folly--and to answer a point you made about friends being around if something goes wrong....FORGET IT--usually when @$#% occurs its pretty much all over in the blink of an eye--best thing is to read up, be prepared and start small---you wont regret it

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Originally posted by xsv21 Right, k but I'm from Milwaukee we don't have strong winds like other places do, I'm looking to get into it with a friend, we will hve 2 ppl there to back up someone if something goes wrong, I don't have much money, and no job, I have a little amount to but a kite that will last me for a low/mid range of wind

A 5-6m depower will be utterly disappointing if these are your normal conditions. You seem to be turning away from some very sage advice. Do so at the peril of your own bones, life and bank account.

Pah my first power kite was the 5m Rebble ... I had a goodly amount of experience on 2 line stunters though, went to a safe area to learn (soft sand beach) and only went out in light winds, to begin with.