a classic example:
'ow, there's a camera, let's show off..!!'

have fun.


press here :wee:

Ouch man, looks like someone took quite the hit.

I assume that was you? :tumble:

That was some pull onto the beach lol

Brian

me kitesurfing..??
not in this life..!!

only kitebuggy..:D:D

My instructor buddy told me that he teaches people NOT to ride within 2 line lengths of shore for just this reason ... I got properly growled at when I broke my wrist too

I'm guessing that if he'd just let go of the bar, it would have auto-zenithed and dragged him a bit but it looks to me like he held onto the bar and steered it back into the power zone ...!

hehehhe....Loved the soundtrack!

Okay, I had to laugh at the soundtrack, that was classic. The wipeout though, that looked painful. There is something to be said for riding in waist deep water... Ankle deep can hurt. I ran aground twice on saturday and both times got yanked right off my board and dragged through very shallow water. Hit the ground and dragged one time. Didnt get hurt and laughed it off, but I'm pretty sure it looked darn impressive.

Morale of the story, go a little farther out.

Ahh someone made my point for me. Any other kite would have sat where it was. The ARC tried to auto zenith which was where it really started to go bad. If the kite would have sat on the edge of the window he would have had time to gather himself rather then worry about the kite taking off.

Kevin has it right I think. The fact that he never dumped the kite suggests he was transfixed and held on to the bar, powering it up right into the window. As stated in another thread the ARCs CAN still have some power when you let go of the bar, depending where they are in the window. In Carl's video, we saw him get dragged about 30' before the kite auto-zenithed when he let go of the bar when the kite was powered up.

If this guy had let go, I bet he would have body dragged a bit in the surf but he surely never would have shot up the beach like that.

Just watched this for the first time with the speakers on; LOL. The engine cranking sound when the kite powers up is priceless!!!

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If this guy had let go, I bet he would have body dragged a bit in the surf

Thats my point exactly. say there was a fence or rock jetty there..... He did panic and kept hold of the bar which made it a bit worse but any other kite you would have to make a move to relaunch it.

IS there anymore of the video? he got dragged up the beach and looked like the kite was moving to relaunch again.....

When the kite is dropped like that it is MUCH safer for it to stay there. Not drift further into the power zone and relaunch. This is a negative about arcs.

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Originally posted by snobdr IS there anymore of the video? he got dragged up the beach and looked like the kite was moving to relaunch again.....

Looks like when he did a face plant he let go. If it launched and he did not touch the bar he would be ok

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When the kite is dropped like that it is MUCH safer for it to stay there. Not drift further into the power zone and relaunch. This is a negative about arcs.

again, just let go...

looks as though he needs ninja lessons

the relaunch he was given was a gift unfortunately he was unprepared to receive it

The point is he didnt let go and the kite relaunched. Any other kite he would have to do something for it to relaunch.

When the kite moves to the center of the window and relaunches on its own, dosent matter if you hands are on the bar or not its going to drag you.

Look closely at the vid, when the kite is starting to take him at the beach his arm are all the way extended, Should be pretty well depowered at that point but seems to really be taking him.

the video is just for fun.
the kitesurfers didn't got hurt neither anyone that was in his (crash) neighbourhood.



but thanks for your compliments

the kite should've been on the other side to ride out the lofting , how did it get so far behind him? .input when it relaunched input made it go across the window. alot of pilot error by just grabbing at the bar. and the second lofting ? he was holding in the bar from one end

that is not auto zenith that was input . when it first relaunches it is stalling . it took input to turn the LE into the power zone. autozenith just won't do that.

looks like he rotated under the first loft and held onto one end of the bar

letting go would have helped, glad no one was hurt

It should have never relaunched to begin with. He would have never got in trouble if the kite just sat there at the edge of the window. No it drifts towards the middle of the window and relaunches which makes the guy panic and grab hold.

... what about all the new infalto kites that advertise "auto-relaunch!" ...? Won't they have the same problem

I think the vid Carl posted where he's dragged was mad wind ...
Again IMHO it's a safety issue - too close to shore, didn't pop the safety after the first bounce ... like that famous guy who got lofted across the road into the hotel, you hang onto the kite cos you think you can save it and don't want to pull the safety and have it drag around on the ground making holes in it :D or have to go through the hassle of setting it up again ...

New inflatos will sit at the windows edge waiting for you to grab an outside line and relaunch. Or if close to the center of the window will sit leading edge down again waiting for you to grab and outside line and relaunch.

And if you pull on the bar while disorientated?

He didnt pull on the bar while disoriented. Watch the kite. You can tell when he pulled on the bar, it was after the kite was already in the air

The question was "what if ... with your SLE?" Answer the question, dammit!

All depends on where the kite is and which line you pull and how hard the line is pulled. If you just happen to have the kite in the correct position and have the correct side of the bar pulled in the kite will launch. Having the bar pulled in like that unless you let off the pressure the kite will most likely loop and be back in the water before you could respond to it.

So it all depends ... know your gear, do the right thing at the right time, yes?

The thing is with you inflatuo boys is, if I were to say something like "That dude who got lobbed into the building was on an LEI" you can always counter with "Yes but with the new technology that would never happen"

And you arc guys say it wasnt the kite relaunching that made him panic he just did the wrong thing. Theres no possible way that autozenith could be a bad thing.
The guy who got lobbed into the building was an idoit flying in a huricane, not quite in the same realm.

There's no possible way that auto-relaunch could be a bad thing? Like I said - or meant to say - it's the man, not the machine :D

Thanks for making my point.

Oh I thought your point was that inflatos don't auto zenith so they're safer.
My point was dude did the wrong thing at the wrong time, and regardless of what he has in the air, that can be a problem. If THAT was your point, then we're in agreement and I'll buy the next round

... I wonder - would an arc would death spiral if tangled with another kite ...? :ticking:

Funny i dont remember ever saying that.

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Originally posted by Kamiuza Oh I thought your point was that inflatos don't auto zenith so they're safer.

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Originally posted by snobdr Funny i dont remember ever saying that.

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Originally posted by snobdr Any other kite would have sat where it was. The ARC tried to auto zenith which was where it really started to go bad. any other kite you would have to make a move to relaunch it. ... he didnt let go and the kite relaunched. Any other kite he would have to do something for it to relaunch. It should have never relaunched to begin with. He would have never got in trouble if the kite just sat there at the edge of the window. No it drifts towards the middle of the window and relaunches which makes the guy panic and grab hold. New inflatos will sit at the windows edge waiting for you to grab an outside line and relaunch. Or if close to the center of the window will sit leading edge down again waiting for you to grab and outside line and relaunch. If you just happen to have the kite in the correct position and have the correct side of the bar pulled in the kite will launch. Having the bar pulled in like that unless you let off the pressure the kite will most likely loop and be back in the water before you could respond to it.

Funny, I thought that was EXACTLY your point :ticking:

The point was autozenith isnt always good. But if you want to say one is safer then the other then i guess in this instance it may be true.

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