Knolee
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Strop
What lb rope should I use for the strop I'm making?
I weigh 165 and I use a 4.1m in max ~25mph winds.
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you need to use Amsteel.............google it or westmarine stores carry it........if you need some shoot me your addy and Ill send you
some...................
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http://www.samsonrope.com/index.cfm?rope=192
checkout this link...............I use Amsteel on my center depower line, rear leader lines, arc leaders, etc.........awesome stuff.............. :duh::duh:
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krumly
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I prefer something wth a separate cover for a strop. As a single braid, Amsteel is great for splicing loops and such, but if you're running it
through a sheave or even letting it run right over a speader hook or such there's no protection from friction and abrasion.
1/4" spectra double braid (spectra core with poly sheath) would be good. Actually, even a straight polyester double braid will be fine if it's marine
grade. No hardware store stuff, please.
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acampbell
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Yep, I use sheathed running line from the local West Marine. Inexpensive enough to replace when needed.
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don't get a very nice strop unless you have a pulley or roller on your harness... My strops wear out fast, even 6mm spectra wears out after a while
when running through a hook. Cheaper stuff wears out in a few hours, the good stuff can take up to 20 hours to wear out. it all depends on how much
you load it up and how much you pull it through the hook.
that said, you do need good line... I received a polypropelene (the yellow single braid cheapo hardware store stuff) strop with a kite I purchased
recently, not sure what the seller was thinking, I chose to regard it as a joke as everything else was excellent and threw it out. anything braided on
the outside with a interior core will do, from climbing accessory cord to the yachting line mentioned above.
the abrasion resistance is more important than the strength, tho. at least 500 pounds will do.
fixed bridles, flying static, been two years now... ??? folks must be wondering....
sting 1.7, dp power 2.5, crossfire 3.2, ace 5, blade iv 6.5, ace 8, ace 12...
also a couple of arcs, 12 syn and 12 phanny, but i\'m not yet up to speed on them.
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FWIW:
Amsteel II & Amsteel II Plus are available in covered flavors, where there is a braided polyester cover over the Dyneema core. The Plus variant
add a Samthane coating to further enhance abrasion resistance.
ATB,
Sam
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rickgi
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Ozone makes some nice strop lines, sold as an accessory with existing loops on the end ready for larksheading. Around $7 at the retailer of your
choice.
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vwbrian
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Ozone strops are very nice.
I use climbing rope from REI and cover it with tubing from ACE hardware store.
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sending sheeted and Amsteel to Knolee and Power.....................you decide which is better..........................no loops required....tie a
knot at the end of the line then larks it to you handles....................BeamerBog had a pic of his reig tied like this.........Ill tie and send
you a demo as well...............................for me its Amsteel all the way....................If you can winch a truck with
it.................... :duh::duh:
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Here you are...
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thats the one......thanks A
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12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
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MTH Colonel Reb customs 160x45 carbon, 141x43 wood
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acampbell
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For handles with loops, like Peter Lynn...
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Knolee
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I think those diagrams are somewhere in the manual that came with the my kite, but you just saved me a bunch of digging around. Thanks Acampbell. Oh,
and btw that 4.1m Twister II I ordered from you is fantastic. Thanks.
14m Eclipse Thruster
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Poweer/Knolee,
Your strops are on the way....................
Power,
youve got a 10' piece of of 5mm (3/16"/5400 lbs break strength) Amsteel and a 3 foot section of sailing line (3/16" and rated at 2000lb break
strength)
Knolee,
You have the same line, both pieces are in 3 foot sections............................
:duh::duh:
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15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
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MTH Colonel Reb customs 160x45 carbon, 141x43 wood
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11'6 Naish Nalu
6' Davo Fish
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power
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Thanks tri. What are the uses for the different types of line?
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the green sailing sheet or line is coated with a core...the Amsteel is woven.............you decide which on you like better for
strops...............................i/.e wear resistance and smoothness thru your hook................with the extra Amsteel you can redo your center
line on your Nemisis rig when its time..........................
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power
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The center line on the bar?
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yes your bar center or depower line.................
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12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
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power
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There's actually 3 lines coming in there though... replace all 3 individually, or just scrap em' for one?
-08 Best Nemesis HP 14m
-07 North Rhino 10m
-05 Best Nemesis 10m
-04 Slingshot Fuel 13m
-05 Flexi Storm 8m, 10m, 12m, 14m (FOR SALE!!)
-05 Naish 5.5m (FOR SALE!!)
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post a pic........sounds like you have a double depower or center line and a 5th line...............
17m Ozone Zephyr (2012)
15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
10m Ozone Catalyst (2012)
MTH Colonel Reb customs 160x45 carbon, 141x43 wood
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11'6 Naish Nalu
6' Davo Fish
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