Anyone heard about this new depower kite from OZONE? One size 4m with what looks like reverse depower.

Anyone?

http://www.flyozone.com/snowkites/en/products/kites/pure/inf...

It's not depower. It's fixed bridle.

What in the heck is reverse depower?

Looks like an Imp packaged with a simple harness to me. Still a nice little package to get someone who has never kited out on the snow though.

Pure is an easy to use, fixed bridle kite (for constant power) with a safety system to stall the kite (when needed) and a harness, all in one. /endquote

Maybe he meant reverse launch:dunno:

I've looked into these kites but can't find a deasler who sells them. Thought that this would be a good kit for my brother to buy so he could get into the sport on his tight budget. Has anyone heard of a price for one of these?

i'm curious about the price as well...

well, if you can change the angle of attack of the kite (and thus the power delivery) on the fly by pushing/pulling the bar, it is sort of depower right?

I thought they might've incorporated the turbo bar to one of the flows with the Y line system on the trailing edge to make the Pure....

the description and bar sytem image does make it look like a depower. The chicken loop must be attached so that your arms don't get over exerted.
Package Contents

One Snowkite straight out of the box and ready to fly includes:

* One Kite
* 3 Flying Lines
* Bar with 100% De-power Safety Leash systems
* Pure Harness
* Stuff bag
* Instructional DVD
* Manual
* 1-Year Manufacturers Warranty

All explained here:
http://www.flyozone.com/snowkites/en/products/kites/pure/bar...

I don't have one, but a quick look at the link above makes me think it's like the older Ozone Samurai.
De-power, yes, but only if your bailing out. No adjustments possible while riding. I have a 3m, and hate it : (

The Samis were pretty stable though, weren't they?

It looks like a trainer with a third line safety and relaunch capability. I would think it to be more like a flow than a sami - the samurai are very powerful kites for their sizes and the last thing you need as a starter kite on snow (can be very gusty in the hills) is something with non-depower grunt, and lots of it.

A very strange combination of the Flow and the Imp Trainer.

The kite itself has the same color layout of the Imp 3.5/Flow 3.

The bar shares more in common with the Flow bar than the Imp bar due to the inclusion of the Megatron Chicken Loop (who names these things).

Although, it pretty nice. I am not quite sure how they could do much to simplify the Access harness.... kind of strange to add another very limited distribution SKU for this.

"Bar with 100% De-power Safety" just needs to be nuked from the feature list. It's just causes confusion. The way the Flow bar works is if you trip the chicken loop, the wrist safety leash hauls in on the brakes and takes the kite out of the air. That's about the extent of the "100% depower". By this definition, all quad line foils on handles using kite killers have "100% De-power safety." Is it time to flog the marketing interns again? :P

The 3-line pedigree makes it too easy to lump the Pure with the Imp, but the Pure shares another trait with the Flow that doesn't seem to get mentioned too much in the literature. In addition to the 2 end cells being closed, the cell where the orange swash crosses the the leading edge also seems to be closed. Presumably, this is to increase luff resistance at the edge of the window. I never really noticed this on my Flow, so of course now I just have to check . Insomnia is a wonderful thing ;-)

ATB,
Sam

Yeah they use the word "de-power" to describe the safety, which causes confusion. It is in fact fixed bridle with standard control bar (not a Turbo or de-power) with the nice megatron loop that they put on the de-power bars.

Ozone has told its dealers nothing of this (typical) but I will try and find out pricing.

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Originally posted by indigo_wolf A very strange combination of the Flow and the Imp Trainer. The kite itself has the same color layout of the Imp 3.5/Flow 3. Although, it pretty nice. I am not quite sure how they could do much to simplify the Access harness.... kind of strange to add another very limited distribution SKU for this. The 3-line pedigree makes it too easy to lump the Pure with the Imp, but the Pure shares another trait with the Flow that doesn't seem to get mentioned too much in the literature. In addition to the 2 end cells being closed, the cell where the orange swash crosses the the leading edge also seems to be closed. Presumably, this is to increase luff resistance at the edge of the window. I never really noticed this on my Flow, so of course now I just have to check . Insomnia is a wonderful thing ;-) ATB, Sam

The "harness" doesn't have leg straps and has neither a hook nor a d-ring. It appears (on the picture I saw and can't find now) to simply have a nylon webbing loop on it that you have to feed the chickenloop through.

The current generation of Imps (at least the Quattro that I have) has those closed cells on the colored swath too. [EDIT] At least, I thought it did. The pictures on the Ozone site don't look that way.[/EDIT]

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Originally posted by Maven454 The "harness" doesn't have leg straps and has neither a hook nor a d-ring. It appears (on the picture I saw and can't find now) to simply have a nylon webbing loop on it that you have to feed the chickenloop through.

The 2010 Ozone Access Base Harness which replaced the 2009 Ozone Access XC D-Ring Harness uses the nylon webbing loop. No D-Rings in sight in 2010.

Removing the leg straps just seems like a bad call governed by monetary/cost saving considerations (can't believe the leg straps would add all that much to the final price).... time will tell, but...

ATB,
Sam

I have found a place selling these now

http://www.snowboardexperts.co.uk/item/prod/ozone-pure/255/

Pure = £360.00 = 586.79 USD

Flow 4M w/Bar = $448
Ozone Access XB Harness $100
Total= $548

Even if you got the SB harness, you would come in a whisker below the Pure.

So for less money, you get a nicer harness, nicer bag (i.e. one you could probably lash a board to), and a kite that you can swap out to handles when you feel like for minimal additional funds.

I guess the value proposition is kind of lost on me. I know the intent is "Snowkiting in a Box", but on a single phone call you could probably put the pieces listed above together with any Ozone dealer with zero grief.

ATB,
Sam

The flow bag doesn't really have anyway to lash a board to it :D, but other than that I agree with ya wolf.

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Orginally posted by Maven The flow bag doesn't really have anyway to lash a board to it

I am assuming the Flow bags are the same across the size range. You have the anchor points for the two shoulder straps and the grab strap at the top of the bag for lashing purposese. For a board, I just figured you needed a sling (attached to the bottom of the shoulder straps... right where they attach to the bag) to keep the board from repeatedly spanking you (literally). And then 3/5-4/5 up from the bottom of the board, a stabilization strap (attached to the grab strap at the top of the bag) to keep the board from tumbling into the powder.

Granted it would be easer if the Flow bag had compression panels like on the Flexifoil Rage bags, but.... come on.... embrace your inner MacGyver. ;-)

By comparison, I think the Pure comes with a stuff stack.

ATB,
Sam

Fair enough. I was just thinking about the fact that it didn't have straps already in place the way some other bags do.

Yeah I figured.... was still going with the whole "Ozone Pure" snowkiting on a budget, dollar a day, and have coupons.... will travel.

ATB,
Sam