I'm finally looking for a trailer for my buggy and kites. I've have a big roof box, and have eihther benn partially breaking down the buggy or towing it (very short distances), but that time has ended. And that won't ork for NABX

I figure I could get a trailer that the buggy rolls into, or that I'd have to wedge in, or one that it rides on top of. I'm thinking being able to get all of my kites, buggy, and other equipment inside and locked would be a plus. The one major drawback I think I have is that my biggest car is a subaru forrester, so my towing capacity is 2400# _max_, 1800 seems more reasonable

For those of you you have trailers, what size do you have and how do you transport your buggy with it? I'm planning on being to hold libre hardcore bigfoot, which should be honking enough to cover must buggies.

Have you seen Angus trailer?

I'm sure you could pull that with your vehicle.

I love my Wells Cargo MPT

http://wellscargo.com/wellscargo/index.php?page=viewmodel&am...

I built a buggy rack for the top where I carry a PL Bigfoot. Inside I have vertical pigeon holes for kites down one half and open space on the other half where I can keep two PL Arcs with sticks in and a PL Comp XR + buggy with the back axle off, in addition to lots of other gear.

I pull it with a 4-cyl Toyota RAV 4 no trouble

I will post pic when I get home but there is a pic here on Pkf on another buggy transport thread.

Check craigslist in the Portland area. There are several builders here and you can get like a 5X8 with short rails and even a ramp for under a grand new.

Edit: Last year I saw a wells cargo like Angus's go for $400 on there. I would have bought it but I was broke from buying a kite.

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Originally posted by heliboy50 Last year I saw a wells cargo like Angus's go for $400 on there. I would have bought it but I was broke from buying a kite.

Yikes. I spent $2500 with taxes, delivery and spare tire. But the House Ways and Means Committee MADE me buy it in order get the kites and buggies out of the garage.

Here is the Kitemobile with the early version of the buggy rack holding my old Wide Axle Flexi.

Current Version 3.2.1 will accommodate any size buggy and I will get pics tomorrow. Will also get pics of interior layout.

Trailer is Wells Cargo MPT 461

Curb weight is 410 lbs. I recon mine is 650-700 gross weight.

that's a slick looking trailer (sick looking for the 35 and under crowd... :frog: ) well I guess it would need a bit funkier graphics for the "sick" label... dunno what your local house ways and means committee would say about that LOL.

I reckon Heliboy is talking more about a basic, maybe even brakeless, flatbed rig?

subaru forester should tow just as good as a 4 cyl rav 4..

Yeah I was initially thinking about a short trailer like that but then I'd need to keep the buggy on top and tightly pack the inside. Which is perfect for short day trips. I'd "like" to be able to put 1 buggy in there without breaking it down much (maybe on its' side) and then have room for the equivalent of 8 big LEI's bags, and a 150cm kiteboard. Well then again it would also be nice if it had a side door and room for a fridge of beer.

Has anyone had an issue at NABX with having their buggie on the trailer overnight? Makes me nervous.

CL in portland does have a bunch of good trailers, and I've been keeping my eye on it, but most of them are 1000lb, and starting that I'd need it to have brakes too :| I've got my eye on a 4x6 right now but I think it's just near my weight capacity.

:o Nice rig Angus. I like the hitch and go method. More convenient than loading the truck every time. Although from the picture it looks like that flexi has a cup holding apparatus. That wouldn't be for your beer is it I hope the local beach police don't pull you over for B.U.I.

I left my bug out on the playa last year. When you have about 8 of them chained together, they aren't going anywhere. Dunno about the brakes thing. My buddy tows an 18" fishing boat with 2 outboards without trailer brakes. Don't know is this dependent on vehicle weight? Arkay you might be better off building a rack that goes in your hitch receiver for the bug and put the kites in a Spock box on top. Lockable and dry.

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Originally posted by kteguru :o Nice rig Angus. I like the hitch and go method. More convenient than loading the truck every time. Although from the picture it looks like that flexi has a cup holding apparatus. That wouldn't be for your beer is it I hope the local beach police don't pull you over for B.U.I.

Yes it is a beer holder, also used for water. Beer is OK on the beach so long as it is not in glass. Jekyll Island is the only place I know where you buzz the Georgia State Patrol and whizz past their truck with a beer in your hand and not get arrested!!!

BTW, my trailer has no brakes.

At Nabx all buggies are left out at night. Many people camp in buggytown, adding a form of security.

Anug, how strong is the roof. I see it's form polymer with a few aluminum braces. Do you think that will hold up to highway bounging, and the weight of a hardcore? Anyone know the dry crub weight of a hardcore?

Here is the current buggy rack v3.2.1 Note the long pylons that support the rear axle. They are out by the edges of the lid and span several of the aluminum frames underneath, distributing the load. The front attachment point is also near the edge of the lid and near a frame piece as well. The biggest bump we have around here are double railroad tracks but it takes those well.

The lid has gas struts to hold it open, but the weight of the rack even without the buggy will overpower those, hence the wooden strut to hold it open. The bigfoot is over 75 lbs. the biggest limitation would be the ability to open the lid with the buggy still on. It is awkward now.

Interior. you can see a little of the aluminum square tube frame inside the lid. On the left is the XR+ buggy with the back axle off. Two PL ARCS are underneath with inside the expanded bags with the sticks in them intact. Kites and gear in the compartments on the right.

A bicycle lock around the axle and the rack frame offers some security. the average bystander would not know that the axle comes off with no tools, easily getting around the lock. And the rack is painted wood and easily sawed through if someone was determined.

PTW has some links to buggy transports and trailers... http://pic7.piczo.com/Popeyethewelder/?g=33354141

I really like the MPT 461, angus seriously sweet trailer! But the price tag is pretty high for the sqft. I've found a few other "luggage trailers" but they're all basically the similar price. What's odd is that you can go up to a full height 4x6 or 5x8 trailer for a bit less Too bad the buggy would fit into the 4x6 easily, and it's too tall to mount the buggy 6ft off the road on a ladder rack! A 5x8 would work great, but I think the load would be too much for my forrester.

A friend suggested that I hit up a local trailer maker / welder (we aparently have a lot of them out here) to see what they could fab. I've sent a few links to a well know local guy to show him what I'm looking for... can't wait to see what he comes back with :eureka:

anyone ever hear of these guys? http://www.littlecargotrailers.com/small_cargo_trailer

Also for the OR/WA crowd, I just found a local place that's selling these new at 25% off http://www.alumaklm.com/ae46_all-purpose_enclosed_trailer.ht...

What local place? There are a few dealers listed for them around Portland.

I picked up a Yakima Rack and Roll trailer a few months ago. My wife has no roof rack on her car and we've got toys! Mainly got it to haul the Kite Cat. Was sold on the soft shocks to protect the hulls from any rigid bumps. I need them to last forever! Here's a pic:



Basically a roof rack on wheels. I'm hoping to build buggy mounts and put my Rocket Box along side it for kites and gear. We'll see how that goes. Something like what Angus has going on for his buggy. I like that it's very modular, takes any roof rack accessories, folds up nice to store away, and it's super light for good gas economy. So far it's been great for hauling skis, bikes, kayaks and cargo. Testing with the Kite Cat will happen when the snow is gone.

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Originally posted by arkay What's odd is that you can go up to a full height 4x6 or 5x8 trailer for a bit less :

I wanted minimal weight for the job and still have an enclosure since I keep it outside. I already take a 20% hit on mileage and want to watch the wear and tear on brakes and tranny. I also wanted to see out the back. The buggy blocks some view but I am not totally blind in the rear view.

Arkay
I have a small trailer If you are interested in buying it PM me. It is a tow behind a motorcycle trailer with enclosed box. $600.
Dark Blue
2000lbs capacity but I dont think 2000lbs will fit in it
8"wheels
about 4'x3.5' and 2' deep has a
spare tire and a milk crate on the tounge,
small metal rack on top with a wood board under it.
I was going to use it to get my buggy to the beach behind my motorcycle but my bike is just to small for it.

This thing is buried in my garage so It will be a chore to get it out. IF you want to come look at it let me know Sorry about the bad pics.

@Angus

Sweet trailer! What size tires are on that bug? Those look bigger than what I have on my truck!!!:puzzled:

Those are Standard BigFoots- 21 x 12 x 8"

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Originally posted by acampbell A bicycle lock around the axle and the rack frame offers some security.

Some... but my observation is roof rack and other security systems are generally only a deterrent to the opportunistic snatch or lazy thief.

Few years ago I was at a kayak-surfing contest north of San Francisco. One of the other competitors had a roof-rack and snowboards locked on top of car. While they were eating dinner in a restaurant, a thief just pried the whole assembly off the car and took rack, snowboards and all. Destroyed the roof but obviously the thief didn't care about that.

With today's battery powered portable tools.... fogedaboudit. Security is an illusion reduced to being mostly a matter of slowing the thief down and encouraging them to select a more easily extractable target. If they want what you got and your eyes aren't on it - it's gone.

Best strategy is stealth - not to let them see the shiney/pricey things in the first place.

Insecto you are correct. Most of the companies selling locking systems today are advertising that it will not stop a thief, just make them look for an easier taget.

what you need are clearly mounted turrets. that should work

they actually make some pretty clevar low cost alarms that, unless the theif is professional will catch them off guard and send them running. for a pro, all you need to steal a trailer is one wrench and 60 seconds. that's what insurence is for.

Woot, just brought it home and stuffed goodies inside!

I've been thinking about this subject and found the trailer below. I can double as a monster cooler. Fill it full of ice and beverages and drag it to your favorite picnic or beach outing. There is a drain plug in the bottom.