Went up to NY this past weekend and what and awesome and hair raising time. Was on the edge of a huge hill next to a lake with the wind blowing up the hill, got some good floats in. I’ll post a thread up online with some pics, but first jump ever with this kite was in an emergency to avoid smashing into a small rock face.

I have many other questions, but this one in particular has been really bugging me. I have been having a lot of problems anchoring my Outlaw down when I walk away. So what do you guys do to anchor large depower foils so they sit nicely on the trailing edge?

I pull the break lines into the stopper balls which are about two feet up on the Infinity bar I think, and wrap them around the kite stake (also make sure depower strap is let out). The kite will sit on the ground for a little while, but then the wind still gets under the kite and lifts it up, and next thing you know its twisting and flying all over the place. A few times the kite was up into the air before I could walk from the bar to the kite.

Thanks!

Pulling the safety helps, particularly since the Outlaw has the 5th line (hook the leash to the stake). Otherwise, putting sand or snow on the edge is also good (assume you have any).

pull the depower strap in... you want the tension on the rear lines to stall the kite, make sure it doesnt take off... this should only be done in very light winds, though

Pulling the depower strap in puts tension on the front lines, not the rear lines.

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Originally posted by Maven454 Pulling the depower strap in puts tension on the front lines, not the rear lines.

yup... sure does... i got confused... thanks for the correction.... .... my bad...

if the kite is all the pway powered up, if should stay on the ground and stall when it tries to take flight.... if thats not the answer, i dont know

Thanks for the input. Ya the 5th line safety seems to be the best option in the heavier winds, but even in the light winds it still wants to take off when resting on the back lines pulled in...maybe I just need to pull them in more. :dunno:

This thing just never wants to come out of the sky, not that, that is a bad thing.

The FSers up here tend to flag them out into the wind and weight down the upwind tip. They then wind the lines up on the bar and store it all like that until they are ready to rip again in which case it's a simple matter of a window's edge launch - the weight drops off.

I can't remember exactly what ragden does with his, but I'm sure he'll chime in here.

I have a pulse and I stake it out on the chicken loop and then run the rear leaders back around the stake. I have found with my fixed bridle kites if I pull too much of the rear lines in the kite settles too much into the ground creating a trailing edge flap that the wind can get under and cause the kite to launch. That may be happening to you if you're hauling too much of the rear lines back creating a situation where there's no tension driving the kite into the ground. Ideally you want the kite powered into the ground which means you want some tension on the front lines so the kite is sitting up but more tension on the rear lines driving it into the ground. So I stake the Pulse out on the chicken loop and pull the rear leaders back to the stake which usually works pretty well. That usually puts the bar around the position I fly it but the rear lines have more pressure on them forcing the kite into the ground.

If I have too I'll stake it out on the fifth line but I did that once on ice this past winter and the cross winds caused the kite to roll around and around upon and inside itself which was then a mess to straighten the bridles out on ice with a good wind blowing.

Staking it and then dropping some sand or snow or whatever on it works best or backing it down and then floating it back into a buggy or board to really trap it before staking it works best.

For my synergy I basically try to crash it as lightly as possible leading edge down. It will sit there inflated all day long.:D

Brian

Thanks for the advice guys…B-Roc I think you may have pinpointed my problem. I have been putting all the bull on the break lines 100% and not balancing it out to say a 70/30 with the power lines having some tension still in them. I’ll try it out next time.