nocando
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Nova Kites
Are Nova kites an Ozone clone?
Are they any good?
Experience is something you get, just after you need it!
Kites I own
PKD Century 1.8
PL ViperS 2.6
PL Reactorl ll 2.2
PL Vapor 2.7m
PL Reactor 4.9m
PL Vibe 1.6
HQ Apex 3m
HQ Apex 5m
Ozone Cult 3.5
Flexifoil Rage 2.5
PL bug
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WolfWolfee
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IMHO if you don't recognize the name it's a knock off and the answer is no
3M Legend
4.9M Reactor
9.5M Sabre
16M Scorpion
18M Guerilla
Flexi Bug & 661 Armor & Giro Helmet
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Maven454
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Nova kites (at least if they're a power kite and if you're finding them on e-bay) are one of jonesband's knock-offs. They are worthless, useless
%$^#. Technically, they are believed to be ripoffs of the HQ Montana.
"I gave up on wind speeds... its either crappy, gravy, epic, or stupid... in that order"
--Drewculous
Ozone: Imp III Quattro 1m and 1.5m, Flow 2m, 3m, 4m, and 5m.
NAPKA# US454
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acampbell
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Even the product description text is a direct cut-and-paste from the Montana 2 copy in the 2007 HQ catalog. Word- for word. Just about everything
about his products are fraudulent so stay away!
Edit: He has now changed some of the wording but the bullet points are essentially the same. He has swapped adjectives like"Outstanding" for
"Extreme" and so forth but otherwise the same. Notice the borrowed "Leash-less safety system"
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rocfighter
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When will E-bay do something about this guy? How many need to repert him for fraud?
Maybe if one of the companies he is ripping off needs to complain. There are a number of you who have contacts with these companies right? Do they
know about him or is he not worth there attention?
NAPKA # US65
HQ ApexII 7.5
Skydog/ SDT2.8, SDT4.0, SDT5.5, SDF3.0
Pansh Ace 5.0 X2
North Husky 6.0
PL Guerilla 13, 18
PL C-Quad 2.3, 3.2, 4.2
Home made Rat Buggy
Libre V Max on barrow Plus wider taller sand tires & bigfoot front end
Blades Of Death, \"thanks Fran\"
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acampbell
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Yeah, disappointing but not with the attention is what I hear back.
He gets around using "Flexfoil" by mis-spelling the name and claiming it as original.
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awindofchange
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Just to clarify, Nova is a parent company of HQ kites - which is where Jonesripoffband ended up stealing the Nova name from. If you are inquiring
about an HQ/Nova kite such as the Beamer, Crossfire, Scout, Apex or Montana then chances are it is a valid and authorized product. All of the power
kites sold by HQ / Nova are sold under the HQ brand name, not the Nova brand name so if the kite you are inquiring about is listed as a Nova power
kite, then it is one of the junky rip-off copies and I would NOT buy it because you will not be happy.
If you are inquiring about the Air-Extreme or Nova Power Kite 9.5 which is referred to as being "Montana like" then chances are it is a knock off
brand and will fly like crap and end up blowing apart within the first couple flights under power.
All HQ products can be purchased complete, ready to fly including flying lines, safety systems and control bars / handles. HQ products will also be
sold and backed by an authorized HQ retailer who would be more than happy to discuss your purchase with you face to face (or phone to phone). If you
are still confused on what the product is that you are looking at on e-bay, post up a link to the product and people on here will look at it and then
tell you exactly what the product is - and also tell you if the going price is worth it.
You can always drop an e-mail to HQ directly (or most any other manufacturer of power kites) and they too will tell you if the product is one of
theirs or if it is an illegal second hand copy. Chris from HQ kites also frequents this forum and you can even PM him directly if you have any
questions.
If the seller is indeed Jonesband then you are well warned to not deal with him as all of his products are illegal copies that are junk kites and will
not perform or last anything like the actual products from reputable companies. Please do not get ripped off by spending your hard earned money on
his junk rip-off products.
Hope this helps.
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Bladerunner
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Oh boy! Jonesband is going to have the FBI after you now! :duh:
:megan:
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
Ken (K2)
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awindofchange
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Yea, he can bring it on if it makes himself feel any better.
And BTW, Nova has nothing to do with Ozone, the NOVA kite being sold by Jonesband is actually a ripped off copy of the original Montana kite released
by HQ. The new Montana 5 is now in it's 5th generation release, the NOVA is still a copy of the Montana 1's. So even though it is a very poor copy
of the original released Montana (about 5-6 years ago), it is nothing like the latest released versions of today. Thing is that educated kite buyers
know that they could get an original Montana 1 or 2 for much less than what Jonesband is trying to rip people off for on flee-bay for his knock off
copy...and the Original Montana 1 and/or 2 would come complete, ready to fly with an active and working depowerable control bar and flying lines.
If you scroll down to the bottom of all of his posts, you will see that they state that lines and control bars are not included - these will cost you
appx. $150 to $300 more to purchase - putting the cost of his junk kite near the same or even more than what you can buy a real authentic product for.
After a quick search, it appears that another user is selling a "used" one that was purchased from this guy, same listing, same deal of no lines /
control bar. I hope that jonesband is not creating another identity on flee-bay - or worse, someone else actually got suckered into purchasing his
garbage and is now trying to dump it and take a loss.
Education is the only solution to this type of garbage.
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lad
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The only time jonesband kites replace the quality ones is when they're Photoshoped over scans from the manufacturer's brochures (as found in his
auctions).
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thanson2001ok
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Warning.
Another alias for jonesband on ebay is glileshop. Here is his account... http://myworld.ebay.com/glileshop/
He says he is located in WI but will ship his buggy(s) from TX. Says he just moved to WI and everything is in storage in TX.
Buggies are listed with the mispelling of "Flexfoil."
Todd... NAPKA US59 \"Have you taught a kid to fly lately?\"
Ozone 4m, 10m AccessXC
PL 19m, 16m Venom | 10m, 13m Venom II | 17m Vortex | 2.6m Viper | 2.3m Vapor | 6m, 9m, 15m Phantom | 22m Guerilla
Flysurfer 8m, 12m DLX Unity |8m Outlaw| 19m Speed 2.5 SA | 2.5m, 6m Viron
Action Vortex 6.6m Foil (FOR SALE) | Mac Bego 600
Flexifoil 1.2m, 2.4m Sting | 6.6m Blade III
The Original Flexifoil and Hawaiian Team Kite
Snow: Volant Alpine Skis | SnowBlades | PL Ice Buggy | PL KiteSled Land: Coyote Skates | Ivanpah Buggy
Water: Peter Lynn KiteCat
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lad
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Notice that at least TWO barely used "Flexfoil" buggys are already being offered on eBay by their ecstatic owners...
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indigo_wolf
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Not sure if this is JonesBand, but....it gets even weirder....
Used Flexfoil Racing Kite Grass Sand Sport Buggy
Price: US $1,795.00
Shipping: $69.00 Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service
Returns: No Returns Accepted
"... I spent over $700 on wider aftermarket wheels and tires and that is why I can not let it go for less than the listed price."
PKF edit: link removed.
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
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ripsessionkites
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Ozone's other brand is DP Kites
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BeamerBob
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Quote: | Originally posted by indigo_wolf
Not sure if this is JonesBand, but....it gets even weirder....
Used Flexfoil Racing Kite Grass Sand Sport Buggy
Price: US $1,795.00
Shipping: $69.00 Standard Flat Rate Shipping Service
Returns: No Returns Accepted
"... I spent over $700 on wider aftermarket wheels and tires and that is why I can not let it go for less than the listed price."
ATB,
Sam |
Those $700 wider aftermarket wheels are still barrows on 4 inch rims. Photo perspective trick.
Coastal Wind Sports Team Rider
Landsegler Disc wheels
PTW Hero Buggy - XXtreme ApeXX Buggy US 88 - Libre Hardcore
IvanpahBuggyExpo.com
Youtube link
Bob Muse
HQ Montana X 8m, Montana IX 12m, HQ Ignition LEI 5m,
PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
Uturn Butane 2.5m PKD Buster 3m Genetrix Hydra 7m Ozone Yakuza GT 14m
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darknightdevil
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Jo.
New to the site and sport. I am trying to find a cheap maybe power kite even used. (very difficult to find used one online. Maybe someone could help
me out here I would appreciate it. It’s a tuff sport to get into if you don’t have that much money to blow.)
After reviewing this forum I noticed the kite I was going to buy is from this infamous Jones brothers band or whatever his name is.
Just wanted to say thanks for letting me know before I wasted my cash.
Here’s the link to eBay Montana nova…(as someone trying to just start I thought this was legit before I started reading this.)
PKF edit: link removed.
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bobalooie57
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@darknightdevil
New to the sport, you want to take it easy. A 9M Montana-style kite will be a handful to a new kiter, maybe enough that you take it out once, and it
scares you into selling it, often at a loss. Try to find someone to kite with, use their experience and equipment as your guide, if at all possible.
If your budget is small, there are some very good deals right in the for sale section of this forum, on some smaller fixed bridle kites, if your
budget is around $300.00, you could probably get 2 good used kites for that amount. I know, everyone that ever started in this sport wanted to get a
first kite that would get them some sweet air time, but a kite like that can hurt the inexperienced, and its hard to fly when you are hurt. I don't
know anything about you, how big, how much experience you have with wind, what your local winds are like (inland often = gusty, shore clean)
ave.speeds, or what you want to do with kiting, etc. but I do know that most here would advise a 4-line kite in the 3M range, you will use to learn
the basics of flight, the wind window, safety, etc. without posing too much of a danger to yourself or others. Then when you have experience it will
be your high wind kite, and one you use to turn others on to the sport. Good luck, have fun, welcome to the forum, lots of good info here, and stay
safe. Just my fitty cents!
Team MEAN GREEN
Bob Lussier
OUTLAW KITER
1.4M Beamer III, 2M Beamer IV,2M
Toxic HQ , 7.5MApex III, HQ, Quadrifoil XXXL (9.66M), NPW5 2.4,4.8m,
NPW9 3.4M(HQ),NPW9 7M (RASTA\'S FURY),
NPW9 7.6M (BIG SISTAH),NPW9 12MGREENMONSTER(km4), P L Comp ST buggy,PL Bigfoot+
buggy, Atomic Alibi Snowboard, Protec Knee/Elbow Pads & Helmet, Seirus wristguards, Demon crash shorts, LaCross chest/shoulder pads.
(tryin\' to be safe!)
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