Thought I would try and pack the V13 a little different. Haven't tried set up yet as it was 117 degrees in that field.

If I can unroll, leave the kite in a taco, unwind lines then open and inflate, it might just work.

What problems are going to be in my near future? or have you tried it and succeeded?

When I had a bar for each kite I kept the bar attached to the kite all the time. This is pretty much how I used to pack the kite. But I folded the end(s) of the kite in about 4 rolls before finishing rolling up. 1st one end, then a roll to lock it, then the other (however, sometimes there is only one end to fold), then finish rolling up. Burrito style. I also rolled by moving my hands from the center to the trailing edge to the leading edge, repeatedly. This makes for a nice tight burrito.

It works great. Pretty much the only issue for me ever was avoiding twists and tangles. To avoid twists and tangles be sure your lines are sorted prior to winding them. Always wind them up the same way and exactly reverse to unwind them. Figure 8 the lines onto the bar with slight tension. Avoid twisting the bar or dropping the bar throught the lines during winding, packing, unpacking and unwinding. Watch for this when you go to open the kite from the taco to inflate as it can flick the bar through the lines.

exactly how i do it with my phanny!

every once in a while i get a tangle, but its just like any other kite... if you unroll it the same as you roll it... you're golden

Thanks guys, I'll pay more attention on how I roll the kite.

I think I'll like having the lines attached already.