Is it just me, or are there two types?

This one, with no safety line :puzzled:



And this one with a through-the-bar safety :puzzled:




The second one is the one I want, but damned if I can get a response from the occasional shop that has them!!!

Actually, I'd prefer Iron Heart I but damned if I can get replies on them, either

Top one seems to be used on Ozone's Land/Snow kites.

Bottom one is used in their Water/LEI kites. The side ring is referred to in the manual alternatively as the "100% Flag Out Loop" and "Expert Leash Ring"

Until you pointed it out I didn't realize there were two flavors as I am not that much of a waterbaby.... despite being a water sign

ATB,
Sam

Yeah and it's got me paranoid of buying something based on a picture on a website and then having to go through the horse-pucky of sending it back blah blah blah ...

... I truly need one and don't know if I can be arsed retrofitting my used Zero7 bar ... if I sell the other one, I'm tempted to buy a Nav bar :D

whats the question on the Iron Heart 2......................It is 5th line compatable for your Flysufer............................

Yeah but nobody has them ... IH3 has a double depower line and all that entails I'll just go for the Ozone I think ...!

local shop here has the IH 2..........................$79 with tax

Yo Kamikuza,
Not sure where you are at, so not sure who to recommend as nearest 'stocking' dealer with that item. Feel free to drop me a line if you have more questions about the Megatron, and what options it comes in. 435-462-5303

Windzup carries full stock of standard replacement items like c-loops, leaders, line sets, trimmers, bladders, etc. for Ozone kites, and we can dial you in to the proper replacement.

The Megatron is offered in 3 styles, with a couple accessory options:

First is the 'old' image pasted above, with the white Beal line. The white line C-loops come standard on all Ozone Snowkites (de-power foils), and has for years. This is also the standard 'Universal' replacement C-Loop that is sold to replace previous models and on other brands. I say 'old' image, as it shows the old style top handle (the piece above the C-loop that fits into the bar). All C-loops sold in 2010 have the larger size top handle, with a hole molded in for a leash attachment. Old style tops can be ordered still if you prefer that, I have several here.

Second, the PU coated Megatron uses grey spectra that is covered in a protective PU sleeve. This is essentially the same as the one above, except its a different flavor of material. You can choose to use either on any kite, they both have a long line and can be tied with a bowline to attach to any rigging.

Third, is the longer Megatron, using PU covered line, and has a loop sewn into the end. This new 2010 Megatron is the standard replacement for the Contact Bar.

Options: A longer and bigger C-loop, for easy unhooking, and riders who prefer a longer distance between the harness and the bar.

Windzup,
Brian Schenck
435-462-5303
brian@FlyOzoneUSA.com

Web shop going live soon, with all replacement parts available to order.

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Originally posted by windzup Yo Kamikuza, Not sure where you are at, so not sure who to recommend as nearest 'stocking' dealer with that item.

Kam is located in Shiga, Japan.... when he is not vacationing further south and scaring the dolphins.

ATB,
Sam

Thanks Windzup! That's good to know can the PU coating be removed? Or, what I really want to know, is does the make the line thicker than just the Amsteel etc?

No dolphins here - they hang around too long, they get eaten :wow:

The PU coating cannot be removed. At least not easily, you would likely cut into the amsteel if you did. Yes, the PU coating makes the line slightly thicker, yet still narrow enough to slide smoothly thru most any style of bar.

Seems to be that feedback from kitesurfers is they prefer the PU coating, and land/snow kiters prefer the open Beal line. I have used both in summer and on snow in winter, and both styles seem to work fine in any environment.

Personal choice I guess. If you prefer a thinner diameter line than I would suggest going with the white Beal line Megatron.

Windzup,
Brian Schenck
435-462-5303
brian@FlyOzoneUSA.com

Kami, I have the second one you listed in stock...actually, I have both styles in stock.

Bloody typical my luck, Kent - just ordered one from an Ozzie website last night
Figured I'd get a Navigator bar for the Synergys rather than dick-about trying to make something but I'll use the Megatron on the Flysurfer, which hopefully has a slightly bigger hole through the bar ...!

No problem. If the Ozzie site doesnt come through for you then let me know. I also have navigators in stock.

The standard Flysurfer chickenloop is a POS. I was having a great session on the water today until it went and flagged out the kite on the 5th line. I struggled to get it back together in the water but ended up doing a self rescue and swimming to shore. I brought the same topic before but never changed it out. It is a must now.
Does the IH 2 swivel? I kind of like the push away style of it better but anything is better than the existing hand grenade pull pin.

Yeah I've struggled to get it back together on land ...!
After diving through the .pdf manuals, the IH doesn't swivel - that I can tell ... but the little knob above it with the microloop hook does. So I guess the answer is - yes

I got the Megatron and the line is about 7cm shorter. So the bar throw will be shorter and it will not be completely depowered. I could replace the line with a bit longer one. The 5th line atatchment looks like it will work. The construction of the chicken loop looks realy sturdy. The release is easy to activate and reattach. Did you get one Kami?

Ordered and paid for ... 10 days and counting since they sent the "We put it in the mail" email :dunno: that'll learn me for not bugging the guys here!

Damn, it's shorter? Gah that means I'm going to be hunting around for depower line too :megan: can't believe I'll have to order leader line AND depower line from overseas!!!

Hmm. Will this work for a line replacement?1/4" AmSteel-Blue Dyneema Single Braid, 8600lb. Breaking Strength

I hope so - just remembered I got some of that on a OR CL I got ...!

Mine arrived today ... at long last CL looks great, nice little unit!

The beal line thing is a tube tube over the Dyneema depower line ... as it lines up on mine, the tube is too short but the Dyneema long is probably long enough if you tie a tight knot at the trim strap.
Erm what I mean is, if you line up the FS depower line and the Ozone depower line from where the plastic bits of the CL end and the depower line begins and compare just the line themselves ... then the black tube covers all the depower line up into the trim strap/gust absorber but you lose about 2 inches of power pull - the swivel thing. I reckon the kite'd fly fine though, with perhaps a bit less Whee and Boing.

You can remove the tube by undoing all the hex head bolts in the plastic swivel thing (that shouldn't swivel) above the CL proper and sliding it off. I probably going to cut the tube so it stays under the swivel thing then either thread it back onto the original Ozone line or use my OR blue Amsteel line ...

I'm betting it'd work fine on a Zero7 bar too ... to use the PL OEM safety, get the Ozone CL with the plain swivel thing, remove it then put the PL rotating leash attachment next to the CL then slide the swivel thing back on and you're done. Assuming the depower line is the same length ...!

I switched out all my cl to 3/16 amsteel... They will wear out a little quicker, but how smooth it is.....Cheap and easy way to have a smooth operating bar...

Also a little thicker than the silver stuff and has a core too ... so I had to junk the tube and just put it together. Bit tough to get it through the CL housing but got there in the end




Looks trick, works well and actually works with the bar better than the original - the FDS line isn't getting pinched any more!

3/16" is the right size. I got some amsteel blue but it does not have the core. What line did you use or did you just keep the line that came with it and live with it shorter. I have to finish mine off - have not had time.

nice.......................no more re ride issues

Oh some other stuff someone sent with an Ocean Rodeo CL ... hmm, glad I didn't drill any holes to fit it! :o

Hoping that by bumping this thread I'll get KENT to check his U2u's

Did you get a response from Kent? I can call him for you if you like. What did you need?

I need him to check his U2u's no hurry though ... the bar & kite is in a box heading to John

Thanks Mav I'll U2u you when I need you to call Kent so I can U2u him

only took me 2 months to get the Speed2 out of the living room and to the post office ...

Now, I need 3 Megatron CL with the old (?) PU coating and the spinning handle with the hole in it ... someone is trying to get some from Europe for me but it looks like they can only get the beal line ones which aren't suitable ...

Anyone? Kent seems to be ignoring me