So I have a 6m Pansch that Ive been using for a while now and I feel pretty confident and safe using it.
Ive been wanting to switch from using the handles to setting the kite up on my bar.

I tried to do it today and spent at least an hour on it, but i cannot get the kite up. Its like the brake line is too short.
So I tried to adjust the length of the left and right lines hoping that that would work but it doesnt.

Someone please tell me what to do.



EDIT: I use the middle 2 lines as the brake lines and the outside lines as steering lines. is this correct?

Sounds like you're brakes are still too short. I had the exact opposite happen when I first connected my turbo bar to my 3m Flow. The kite went up alright with the brake lines curving in long graceful arcs. I actually had a bit of trouble landing the kite - and no amount of adjustment on the bar could fix it. My solution was to make up some 5 inch long loops out of 1.5mm spectra and attach them between the power lines and the kite (kept them out of the way of the turbo bar). Problem fixed. Sounds like you need to the opposite - add a few inches to your brake lines. (I'm assuming your brake lines go to the outside of the bar and powers through the center ie: crossover/turbo bar style?

Ah, I've just seen your edit. It all depends on the bar! Which bar have you got?

its the bar that came with my griffin. I should probably try switching the brake to the outside lines.
Haha i cant believe i didnt think of that.
...now, just to wait for another windy day...

Simple test - wrap the lines around the bar a couple times to shorten them and see if that fixes the problem. If so, then you will either need to shorten the top lines or lengthen the brakes.

Instead of changing your lines, just pick up some parachute cord and add it to the leaders the amount of distance needed to get your lines tuned in properly. Most of the time the bars will have extra long leaders on them so you can tie additional tuning knots in them to set your kite up properly. If you are connecting all four lines on the very ends of your (hopefully) long leaders, then add some knots in the lines, move your connection point up to those knots and see if that works.

Also, it is only advised to adjust/tune your kite in light winds. Don't try wrapping the lines around the bar in super strong winds as this could be very dangerous.

Hope that helps.

I'm not familiar with the Griffin bar but what Kent said should sort you out.

I tried running a depower bar on a fixed bridle once - the 2m Beamer I was trying didn't like being steered on brakes alone. Here's the vid:

I don't think the ace will respond well to brake only turning. Most aces like very little brake input. Keep the power lines to the outside of the bar and shorten those leaders so you have a nice arc like John mentioned in the center brake lines. Should work ok that way. Don't expect the kite to turn very well from my experience. Good luck and let us know how it works out for you.

Edit: do you have the de-power throw of the bar locked off somehow? If your moving the bar in and out like a de-power you will have nothing but issues.

@DAKITEZ
Ive tried shortening the power lines but it seems like there is just too much pull on them to even make a difference
When i lengthen the power lines it pulls the break lines in all the way...


This is what my bar looks like

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The only different is that i think the line that connects to the chickenloop might be shorter.
I bought it used so the guy might of switched it out without telling me.

Looks similar to a turbo bar to me - should work fine once you get the lengths right. You could try laying out your lines (all fixed at one end - attached to bar at other) and see if they are all fairly even at the bar end. Looks like your brake lines should be going to the outside of that bar. I have my turbo bar set so that the brake lines are just starting to go slack with the bar out. I'll often pull the bar in to speed up my turns but then let it out again straight away. At speed in the buggy, I'll have the bar pulled in maybe halfway - the 3m Flow likes a lot of brake when moving fast - your Pansh may not! Also, assuming that does indeed work the same as an Ozone turbo bar - it may take you a little while to get the 'hang' of it. Took me quite a few hours to start getting a good feel for it and stop stalling the kite by continually pulling the bar in!

I tried putting the brakes on the outside lines and it worked.
It took a good 20 minutes to get used to but it worked

I just feels kind of weird because in order to turn there has to be some break but if there is too much then it wont fly.
It just takes some time for tuning and adjusting, and ALOT of patience.

some kites just dont fly well on a bar.... their engineering was designed for handles and nothing will change that... my crossfire was lousy on a bar.... could barely get it off the ground, but handles was totally different

Not surprised it doesn't fly on that Drew - it's a 2:1 depower isn't it? Looks like it works like the pulley handles but worse :D
Get/make a proper crossover/turbo bar - I flew my Ace, Cult and Rebble on the one I made and it was buttah mate!

Ditto. You cant fly a Fixed bridle on a depower bar.

Get a bar designed for FB flying. the brakes attach to the trailing (bottom) edge bridles, the control lines attach to the leading (top) edge bridles.