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[*] posted on 18-11-2010 at 06:26 PM
Wanting to upgrade my Synergys to Chargers


Damned people talking, got me thinking ... do they really have more bottom end than the Synergy?

So I want me some Chargers now :lol: but money is tight so I'd have to sell out or trade the Synergys before I could get Charged ...

... hmm ...



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[*] posted on 18-11-2010 at 06:29 PM


What do you have in 10m at Kami's Kite Shop?



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[*] posted on 18-11-2010 at 06:36 PM


I can't wait to get my chargers!!! The low end is so good on them. I used the demo charger that invertedforce had. It felt like an LEI and arc mix because it was so responsive and fast in low wind



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[*] posted on 18-11-2010 at 07:16 PM


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What do you have in 10m at Kami's Kite Shop?

Flysurfer Outlaw :D nothing in the arcs - I've only got the 3 Synergy's now, 12, 15 and 19 ... love them in the high wind gusty crap we've had recently but ... well, just but :lol:



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[*] posted on 18-11-2010 at 09:02 PM


Outlaw for sale...? :saint:



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[*] posted on 18-11-2010 at 09:39 PM


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Outlaw for sale...? :saint:

NO :no: nyet nein iie non ... :D



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 01:40 AM


i take Credit Card ... and you're a valued customer. =)



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 06:02 AM


If you take my credit card, then the wife would take my balls :lol: perhaps in a few months ...! I'd have to see how the market moves for the Synergys ...



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 06:18 AM


Wicked man! :Ange09:



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 06:46 AM


chargers are fast , for sure. they have good low end as well. right down to 7mph on land. which do you ride more the SYN 15 or 19?



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 06:55 AM


19 so far ... 15 a few times but have yet to use the 12 :o



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 07:51 AM


I am not getting the extra low wind from my 15m Charger that I think can be had ?

I haven't had enough days to get the strap adjustment right + don't think my style of flying helps? At the moment I seems to be too little difference for me to take advantage of? I'm enjoying the Syn more simpley because I am so used to it.

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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 09:40 AM


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I am not getting the extra low wind from my 15m Charger that I think can be had ?

I haven't had enough days to get the strap adjustment right + don't think my style of flying helps? At the moment I seems to be too little difference for me to take advantage of? I'm enjoying the Syn more simpley because I am so used to it.

NOTHING beats really getting to know your kite !


Take Phreerider for example ripping it up with a smile on his face on a Venom.



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 06:13 PM


How much of a difference in power between 12 and 15? I'd have the biggest kite without question, being The Fattest Kiteboarder in Japan™, but what about for the next step down?
I've not used my 12 yet, even in big bad-ass wind we had when the typhoon came through ... I'd probably use it more on the land but we don't have the space for landboarding with a big depower :( maybe snowkiting ...



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 06:25 PM


Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy.



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 07:46 PM


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Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy.


i think it depends on what you do. if you ride wave/surf you dont need such a huge kite.

boosting big / twintip = more wind or bigger kite.

im a one kite quiver guy if i can ... i have used a SYN / CH 15 beyond its max.

go big or go home



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 07:51 PM


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Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy.


i think it depends on what you do. if you ride wave/surf you dont need such a huge kite.

boosting big / twintip = more wind or bigger kite.

im a one kite quiver guy if i can ... i have used a SYN / CH 15 beyond its max.

go big or go home


Rip, have you found a limit on the water on the 15s? How much wind have you used a 15 in? Surely I can handle what your limit is with my 230 lbs.



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Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy.


i think it depends on what you do. if you ride wave/surf you dont need such a huge kite.

boosting big / twintip = more wind or bigger kite.

im a one kite quiver guy if i can ... i have used a SYN / CH 15 beyond its max.

go big or go home


Rip, have you found a limit on the water on the 15s? How much wind have you used a 15 in? Surely I can handle what your limit is with my 230 lbs.


i launched a 15 CH in 35 Knots, trimmed 50% in with the choppy waves I couldn't keep a straight line (feather weight) so i had to size down finally to BR's CH 10 trimmed 0%, full tight straps. board was a TT 128cm. still prefer butter flat water.



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 08:05 PM


Like I've said, I've had the 19 Syn out in BIG winds - the other guy out was on a LEI 9 and was way-overpowered. I was on my Flydoor and a couple of gusts pulled me off my edge, but otherwise I was loving the mad power! I reckon it was 30 knots easy ...
I took the 15 out in similar conditions and it was good too but it didn't jump as easy - but I'm still learning that :) gust handling was lovely! Felt very comfy :)



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 08:51 PM


Hearing this stuff makes me think my 15 Syn is my high winds kite! With a 19 as my regular "everyday" kite.



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[*] posted on 19-11-2010 at 09:02 PM


But what is good for The Fattest Kiteboarder in Japan™ may not be good for you :D

Spent an hour unpacking and inspecting my Synergy's ... they're in better condition than I remembered :lol: the 12 is totally brand new :o the 15 and 19 show signs of use if you look closely at the bridle or pig tails, but the fabric is mint condition! They're a bit dusty from the beach at the lake though :( wish there was an easy way to wash them :)



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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 08:57 AM


Oh what a happy family!


The 19 ...


The 15 ...


The 12 ...


... and I'm loving our new houses big yard! It's bigger than the old house and that was the biggest yard in the 'hood by a country mile ... positively estate-like, this house!



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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 09:51 AM


Soooo.....prices?



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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 09:56 AM


Hoooooo boy....

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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 04:15 PM


DIBS ON SYN 15!! :D



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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 04:42 PM


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I can't wait to get my chargers!!! The low end is so good on them. I used the demo charger that invertedforce had. It felt like an LEI and arc mix because it was so responsive and fast in low wind


Hehe you've been on a 4-day adrenaline rush! Mega congratulations by the way!! :D

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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 05:32 PM


ive got my 15 and 12m chargers for sale!!



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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 05:36 PM


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ive got my 15 and 12m chargers for sale!!


Ohhhh how much for the 15? Obviously I'm searching like crazy for a 15m Charger or Synergy. I've been leaning towards the Synergy due to my budget :P

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[*] posted on 20-11-2010 at 06:55 PM


Crikey! The vultures are circling :lol: before you get too excited ... I'm still thinking and haven't really decided one way or other. The Synergy's are so purdy, and I have them already ... I should probably save money for like, NABX or something ;)

Yes I've got a couple of LEIs and the Flysurfer too ... but for snowkiting (hopefully this year!) and landboarding, I love the range and stability of the arcs. I used the Syn's on water cos their wind range is just massive out the top end and they're so forgiving. The LEIs are handy in some of the tight locations here that need assisted or drift launch or have such junk-filled beaches I don't want to put a nice foil down on :D



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