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Kamikuza
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Wanting to upgrade my Synergys to Chargers
Damned people talking, got me thinking ... do they really have more bottom end than the Synergy?
So I want me some Chargers now but money is tight so I'd have to sell out or
trade the Synergys before I could get Charged ...
... hmm ...
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Bladerunner
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What do you have in 10m at Kami's Kite Shop?
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
Ken (K2)
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I can't wait to get my chargers!!! The low end is so good on them. I used the demo charger that invertedforce had. It felt like an LEI and arc mix
because it was so responsive and fast in low wind
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Kamikuza
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bladerunner
What do you have in 10m at Kami's Kite Shop? |
Flysurfer Outlaw :D nothing in the arcs - I've only got the 3 Synergy's now, 12, 15 and 19 ... love them in the high wind gusty crap we've had
recently but ... well, just but
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Outlaw for sale...? :saint:
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Kamikuza
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Quote: | Originally posted by cheezycheese
Outlaw for sale...? :saint: |
NO nyet nein iie non ... :D
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ripsessionkites
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i take Credit Card ... and you're a valued customer. =)
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Kamikuza
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If you take my credit card, then the wife would take my balls perhaps in a few
months ...! I'd have to see how the market moves for the Synergys ...
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ripsessionkites
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Payment plans now available.
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Kamikuza
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Wicked man! :Ange09:
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chargers are fast , for sure. they have good low end as well. right down to 7mph on land. which do you ride more the SYN 15 or 19?
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Kamikuza
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19 so far ... 15 a few times but have yet to use the 12 :o
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Bladerunner
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I am not getting the extra low wind from my 15m Charger that I think can be had ?
I haven't had enough days to get the strap adjustment right + don't think my style of flying helps? At the moment I seems to be too little difference
for me to take advantage of? I'm enjoying the Syn more simpley because I am so used to it.
NOTHING beats really getting to know your kite !
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
Ken (K2)
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BeamerBob
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bladerunner
I am not getting the extra low wind from my 15m Charger that I think can be had ?
I haven't had enough days to get the strap adjustment right + don't think my style of flying helps? At the moment I seems to be too little difference
for me to take advantage of? I'm enjoying the Syn more simpley because I am so used to it.
NOTHING beats really getting to know your kite ! |
Take Phreerider for example ripping it up with a smile on his face on a Venom.
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Kamikuza
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How much of a difference in power between 12 and 15? I'd have the biggest kite without question, being The Fattest Kiteboarder in Japan™, but what
about for the next step down?
I've not used my 12 yet, even in big bad-ass wind we had when the typhoon came through ... I'd probably use it more on the land but we don't have the
space for landboarding with a big depower maybe snowkiting ...
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BeamerBob
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Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You
are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy.
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ripsessionkites
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Quote: | Originally posted by BeamerBob
Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You
are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy. |
i think it depends on what you do. if you ride wave/surf you dont need such a huge kite.
boosting big / twintip = more wind or bigger kite.
im a one kite quiver guy if i can ... i have used a SYN / CH 15 beyond its max.
go big or go home
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BeamerBob
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Quote: | Originally posted by ripsessionkites
Quote: | Originally posted by BeamerBob
Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You
are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy. |
i think it depends on what you do. if you ride wave/surf you dont need such a huge kite.
boosting big / twintip = more wind or bigger kite.
im a one kite quiver guy if i can ... i have used a SYN / CH 15 beyond its max.
go big or go home |
Rip, have you found a limit on the water on the 15s? How much wind have you used a 15 in? Surely I can handle what your limit is with my 230 lbs.
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ripsessionkites
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Quote: | Originally posted by BeamerBob
Quote: | Originally posted by ripsessionkites
Quote: | Originally posted by BeamerBob
Phreerider went from a venom 13 as his go to kite to a 15 charger instead of the 12 he thought it would be. Different projected area comparison. You
are like me and probably are a 15/19 kinda guy. |
i think it depends on what you do. if you ride wave/surf you dont need such a huge kite.
boosting big / twintip = more wind or bigger kite.
im a one kite quiver guy if i can ... i have used a SYN / CH 15 beyond its max.
go big or go home |
Rip, have you found a limit on the water on the 15s? How much wind have you used a 15 in? Surely I can handle what your limit is with my 230 lbs.
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i launched a 15 CH in 35 Knots, trimmed 50% in with the choppy waves I couldn't keep a straight line (feather weight) so i had to size down finally to
BR's CH 10 trimmed 0%, full tight straps. board was a TT 128cm. still prefer butter flat water.
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Kamikuza
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Like I've said, I've had the 19 Syn out in BIG winds - the other guy out was on a LEI 9 and was way-overpowered. I was on my Flydoor and a couple of
gusts pulled me off my edge, but otherwise I was loving the mad power! I reckon it was 30 knots easy ...
I took the 15 out in similar conditions and it was good too but it didn't jump as easy - but I'm still learning that gust handling was lovely! Felt very comfy
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Hearing this stuff makes me think my 15 Syn is my high winds kite! With a 19 as my regular "everyday" kite.
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Kamikuza
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But what is good for The Fattest Kiteboarder in Japan™ may not be good for you :D
Spent an hour unpacking and inspecting my Synergy's ... they're in better condition than I remembered the 12 is totally brand new :o the 15 and 19 show signs of use if you look closely at the bridle or pig tails, but
the fabric is mint condition! They're a bit dusty from the beach at the lake though wish there was an easy way to wash them
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Kamikuza
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Oh what a happy family!
The 19 ...
The 15 ...
The 12 ...
... and I'm loving our new houses big yard! It's bigger than the old house and that was the biggest yard in the 'hood by a country mile ... positively
estate-like, this house!
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erratic winds
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Soooo.....prices?
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
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bigben91682
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Hoooooo boy....
checking credit limit......
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Seanny
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DIBS ON SYN 15!! :D
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Quote: |
Originally posted by flyjump
I can't wait to get my chargers!!! The low end is so good on them. I used the demo charger that invertedforce had. It felt like an LEI and arc mix
because it was so responsive and fast in low wind
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Hehe you've been on a 4-day adrenaline rush! Mega congratulations by the way!! :D
Cheers,
Seanny
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carltb
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ive got my 15 and 12m chargers for sale!!
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Originally posted by carltb
ive got my 15 and 12m chargers for sale!!
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Ohhhh how much for the 15? Obviously I'm searching like crazy for a 15m Charger or Synergy. I've been leaning towards the Synergy due to my budget :P
Cheers,
Seanny
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Kamikuza
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Crikey! The vultures are circling before you get too excited ... I'm still
thinking and haven't really decided one way or other. The Synergy's are so purdy, and I have them already ... I should probably save money for like,
NABX or something
Yes I've got a couple of LEIs and the Flysurfer too ... but for snowkiting (hopefully this year!) and landboarding, I love the range and stability of
the arcs. I used the Syn's on water cos their wind range is just massive out the top end and they're so forgiving. The LEIs are handy in some of the
tight locations here that need assisted or drift launch or have such junk-filled beaches I don't want to put a nice foil down on :D
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