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generotti
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twister II 7.7
Does anyone own this kite that would like to say a word about it? I'm thinking about buying one this spring. thanks
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if this is your first kite, get something smaller first, like the 3 or 4m twister II
its a good freestyle / jumping foil, flies well in light winds
comes complete with everything and comes with either handles or control bar (non-depower)
if you list your location, i can easily find you the closest dealer for a test fly.
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Looks like NE Pennsylvania, near Scranton. Closest PL dealer looks like Don at powerkiteplace.com (York,PA).
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I have one. Build quality is very good and it's a very powerful kite. The only negative thing I would say about it is, is that the redirect is a
little slow in my opinion. It took me a little more time than I thought to dial in the jumps.
....I bought a Blade IV 6.5 about 2 months after I bought this kite and let's just say I don't really fly my Twister anymore. Not to say it's a bad
kite because it isn't but the Blade is so much better in my opinion!
Whatever you choose, have fun and be safe!
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go see Don, great guy and knows his stuff and should have a few demos to let you try
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generotti
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I already own a hornet 3.0 and am looking to get a bigger kite. Lunchbox could you give me a little more info on why the blade is better because i
might look at the kite also. what are some pros and cons of both maybe. thanks!!
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generotti
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yea ill have to check that out if i can find the time to get down there... and you are able to try the kites before you buy them?
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Not sure if he has any Twisters to demo, but I'm sure if you email him (don@powerkiteplace.com) he'll let you know, and will probably let you know
when he'll be in Wildwood next to meet up and fly. He usually goes when Low tide is around noon and decent wind is predicted. Like Ricardo said,
he's a great guy and will help you out.
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generotti
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alright ill send him an email once i'm looking at actually buying. thanks a lot!!
kite(s): Peter lynn Hornet 3.0
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Blade IV pros - King of lift, very stable, fast flying, build quality is top notch, different lift settings, powerful.
Cons - don't make the IV's any more, hard to find, expensive.
Twister Pros - Build quality, not too expensive, more beginner friendly, lift comes on more gradually, powerful.
Cons - slow on the redirect.
Hope this helps. Both are great kites and I don't think you can go wrong with either.
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generotti
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thanks and yea the blade is a lot more expensive!
kite(s): Peter lynn Hornet 3.0
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They are spot on...the redirect is slow....but the lift is awesome. I tip the scales at 205 and this kite lifts me in 15mph with very little work.
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generotti
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is it too slow? and thats sweet.. would it be good for landboarding?
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is it too slow? and thats sweet.. would it be good for landboarding?
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I don't think it's too slow...would I like it faster, yes, but it definitely does the job.
...and yes, it is a great kite for landboarding!!
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, Ozone Cult 3.5, Nasa Star 3 4.0 Ozone Yakuza 4.0, PL Reactor 4.9, JoJo RM+ 5.0, Ozone Method 5.0, Ozone Yakuza 6.0, Flexifoil
Blade IV 6.5, Nasa Star 3 7.0, PL Vapor 7.8, JoJo RX 8.0 (in route), Flexifoil Blade VIP 8.5, PL Vapor 9.4, Ozone Yakuza 10.0, PL Reactor II 10.8, PL
Vapor 16.1, PL Venom II 13, PL Charger 15, 19, Flysurfer Unity 12, Flysurfer Pulse 2 14, Flysurfer Speed 2 SA 19, Flysurfer Speed 3 21, MBS Comp 95
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generotti
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awesomee, well i'm most likely gonna pick one of them up once spring comes around
kite(s): Peter lynn Hornet 3.0
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+ 1 for slow redirect. Also, I weigh about 150lbs. With the lifty nature of this kite I found it didn't have as large a wind range as I expected. I
think you will have a gap with a 3.5m and 7.7? This may influence you to take the 7.7 in to winds you shouldn't ?
I 1st flew it on a bar and it was awful. A completely different game on handles .
You get what you pay for in this sport. The Twister II is sort of a poor mans Blade. Or at least a similar kite at a much lower price.
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
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Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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generotti
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the reason i want a bigger kite is because where i'm located we don't get very high winds and on average is 5 mph if any, and I am a very cautious
person so i shouldn't run into any troubles. and i guess i kind of am a poor man or kid at least hahaha
kite(s): Peter lynn Hornet 3.0
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i flew a 5.6 twister--its much more predictable than a blade--a blade can KILL you...... if youre going to jump at some point, the twister would be a
wise choice--blades are good if you have skills...... really good skills.........
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I have always referred to Blades as violent kites- imagine being tied to the back of a small truck and have the driver gun the engine and pop the
clutch. But if "pop" is your thing....
That said, in light winds they are docile and will fly when others can't. I have handed the Blade to a perfect stranger who had never seen a kite
before (but light conditions were juuuuuust right).
Twisters are more predictable but as Bladerunner eluded to, they suck on a bar. On handles they are smooth and predictable if not a bit slower in the
turns.
All size Blades now have the cross-over bridles that help in turning- previously found only on the larger blades.
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generotti
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yea i've heard them as being violent too.. I really don't have the funds to get a blade anyways but knowing that a twister would be a better choice
for my skill level and what i'm looking for is reassuring. thanks
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I am riding and found I needed something to produce power at a lower wind so sold the 7.7 and bought a 10.8 Reactor. The poor mans Mac Truck.
That said, The 7.7m ( or 5.6m ) would be much better for you.
It would seem obvious that you would want the 5.6m at some point to fill that gap. With such low winds it is hard to say the 5.6 is best but it is the
size that will allow you the widest range of winds to fly in + be big enough / small enough to work out the timing of a jump well? I found the slow
turning meant I could jump but wasn't redirecting in time with the 7.7m . Figuring all the send it, redirect , hold it or correct stuff may be easier
to pick up on the 5.6m ? It's CHEAPER + once you have handles you can buy the 7.7 kite only if money is that tight ? Ask for large handles if you go
that route.
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
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Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
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generotti
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I will most likely get a 5.6m or a kite in that range at some point.. but i'm also looking at getting into landboarding so I think it will be better
for me to get the larger kite for lighter winds now and still be able to learn to jump. then later down the road pick up a kite for the mid range.
kite(s): Peter lynn Hornet 3.0
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Quote: | Originally posted by generotti
I will most likely get a 5.6m or a kite in that range at some point.. but i'm also looking at getting into landboarding so I think it will be better
for me to get the larger kite for lighter winds now and still be able to learn to jump. then later down the road pick up a kite for the mid range.
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if you're landboarding / snowkiting with the 7.7m would be a good choice, since you can hold down more when standing.
take it easy on the windrange at first and you'll build up to flying it in higher winds.
i shouldnt say this : more wind = more height
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generotti
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yeaa I'm pretty set on getting it now after all of this. and i will take it easy.. last thing i need is to be out there in high winds with little
experience lol. thanks
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I dunno mate, I'm skeptical... I think you're sort of doubting the ability of a 5.6m kite to pull you on an ATB or snowboard, even in the lighter
winds... as soon as things head north of about 10-12 mph on that 7.7, things will start to get real hard real fast unless you're experienced with it
and know what you're doing. I live in the Austin area of Texas, which isn't extremely far inland, but it's common for the wind to be 5 mph gusting to
25. Just ask Txshooter38. A 5.6m Twister II is a beast of a kite. It also has a much wider wind range, and when you hit a lull, it's small enough that
you can throw it around and make it continue pulling like a train. But what do I know. If you have consistent, low, steady winds, then the 7.7 might
be right for you.
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Txshooter38
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Maybe I missed it but a component of this is how much you weigh......if you tip the scales over 180 or so I would tell you to maybe go with the
7.7.....less the 5.6.
Again the 7.7 lifts me without much effort....of course my wife flies it occasionally and she weighs much less (135) and can handle it. She does not
pick it up when it is blowing 15 though...more like 8-10mph.
Curtis
Currently flying:
Beamer IV 2m, 3m, 4m
Ozone Flow 5M
PL Vibe 1.3
Synergy 12m
Flysurfer 19m DLX
HQ Apex III 7.5
PL Twister 7.7m--Just plain sick...
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generotti
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well i'm in the middle of a wrestling season at the moment so i'm 160 but once spring comes around ill probably be pushing 180 with lifting. and the
winds here on average are 5-6 and not very gusty which is my reasoning in getting the 7.7m and not the 5.6m.
kite(s): Peter lynn Hornet 3.0
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I mostly agree with the above. I'm 180 pounds, and i think the Twister 7.7 is really meant for heavier people. I always felt that it needed just a
little more wind then i could safely handle in order to get enough turning speed. If i have enough lift for nice jumps, it's slow on the redirects, if
it's fast enough on the redirects, it sends me flying into the next village. In other words: it's just too big for me. I rather take the 5.6 and wait
for a bit more wind, it's just more fun.
Also, since you're looking for an addition to your 3.0, pick a 5.6. The 7.7 will leave a giant gap in windspeed, where your 3.0 doesn't do much but
the 7.7 is still way to big. The 3.0 and 5.6 are a better combination.
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Power: PL Vibe 1.8 (1.9 mod) - PL Vibe 1.9 - PL Vibe 2.3 - PL Hornet 2.0 - PL Twister 4.1 - PL Twister 5.6
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generotti
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yeaa my only concern is, will the 5.6 be able to pull me on a board in 5-6 mph winds?
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yeaa my only concern is, will the 5.6 be able to pull me on a board in 5-6 mph winds?
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Yeah, that would be my concern as well. That is really light wind! Forgive me if you've already mentioned it, but what kind of surface will you be
riding on...5-6 I hope it's a really hard surface.
If it truly is only 5-6 I would go for the 7.7. You might have to stop at 10 or 11mph but you'll do a lot better at the bottom end. Also too, even
thought it is a lifty kite, you don't have to position it at the top of the window. Sounds like you're a careful person, so if you get the bigger
kite, just make sure to listen to your gut when it tells you it's too much.
Flexifoil Blurr 2.5, Ozone Cult 3.5, Nasa Star 3 4.0 Ozone Yakuza 4.0, PL Reactor 4.9, JoJo RM+ 5.0, Ozone Method 5.0, Ozone Yakuza 6.0, Flexifoil
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Vapor 16.1, PL Venom II 13, PL Charger 15, 19, Flysurfer Unity 12, Flysurfer Pulse 2 14, Flysurfer Speed 2 SA 19, Flysurfer Speed 3 21, MBS Comp 95
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