Taper123
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19M Charger
Took the 19M Charger out today in 10-13 mph winds.
Was using a 65 cm Zero 7 bar. On first launch, once it was fully inflated and happy... tons of power and back lines tight with adjuster strap
fully in. Was pretty overpowered in the buggy, but very fast.
Landed kite and put my rear pigtails I use on my 16M scorpion on it... and was much happier with how the kite felt and now was able to adjust the
power down. It was very fast and pulling in the bar was like hitting the turbo button. Trim strap was fully depowered the whole time in the buggy,
and the lines were singing while I was doing what felt like low 20's in the buggy.
Then was curious if it would live up to what the specs say for kiteboarding. Put on the wetsuit... and was able to go a few miles in either
direction and back with no problems. Wind was almost dead on shore. I would have said "No Way" as light as the winds felt.... but it got my
190lbs out of the water and moving. Power trim strap let out most of the way and still had my pigtails on the kite.
Had power and steering adjuster straps on the kite all let out all the way, then pulled in about a inch. Vpc3 settings farthest away from the kite.
Using a old Cabrinah Double agent 180 in the surf. Had to work the kite now and then, but was a nice smooth ride.
First time to fly a Charger. Fast, Fast, Fast...
Gotta love PL Kites.
What do you do with your foils?
Charger 8, 12, 19
Scorpion 10, 16
And other foils...
Flexifoil Bug, CrazyFly board, MBS atb
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Kamikuza
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Cool
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Taper123
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My Scorpions were always a "pita" when it came to tying them off and forgetting about them... but was able to tie off the 19m charger and it might
wiggle a little in the sky... but was very well behaved.
What do you do with your foils?
Charger 8, 12, 19
Scorpion 10, 16
And other foils...
Flexifoil Bug, CrazyFly board, MBS atb
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flyjump
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Nice review and lad you like your ride. Sorry you had to add the pigtails. The nav bar really compliments the charger with the long throw that it has
on the depower like. How did you like the bar pressure/turning capabilities? Did it feel fast for a 19?
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lunchbox
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Nice review. I love my 19 as well. Sooo much faster turning than my Venom 2 in the same size! Now all I have to do is save up money for the 15m ;-)
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Lunchbox you'll love the 15! It feels like a 12m because it turns so fast
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You guys are making my mouth water with all this fast kite turning talk. Gonna have to keep an eye out for a 15m charger.
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dylanj423
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so steve... how did that water feel???
would a 1mm wetsuit cut it do you think? if not, would the dike be warmer?
WHAT I FLY:
Flysurfer Soul v2 12m, Soul 15m, Soul v2 21m
Flexi Rage 1.8m, Jojo RM 3m, Flexi Blurr 3.5, Flexi Blade 4.0m, Flexi Blade 4.9m, Flexi Blurr 5, Jojo RM 6m
WHAT I RIDE:
Kite Skates, Libre Full Race, GI Conflict 106, OR Mako 140, Spleene Door 159
What I Am In The Market For: Peter Lynn Vapors, Weatherproof Kite Buggy Bag for Libre, PL or Flexi Small Buggy to Tow With, Flexi Pro Link Handles,
Flexi Lines, Flexi Kite Killers
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Taper123
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Quote: | Originally posted by flyjump
How did you like the bar pressure/turning capabilities? Did it feel fast for a 19? |
The bar pressure was nice. Enough to know your flying a kite, but not so bad that your arms hurt. The 19M Charger had a lighter feel to it than the
16M Scorpion, and responded and turned at least as quick, if not better. Power delivery was very smooth and predicitable.
Dylan.. water was mid to low 50's and I was in a 4/3 full suit and was comfortable. But still not warm enough for much less. Air temp hovered
around 60 at the coast.
What do you do with your foils?
Charger 8, 12, 19
Scorpion 10, 16
And other foils...
Flexifoil Bug, CrazyFly board, MBS atb
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flyjump
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Good review, i'm really glad you enjoyed your new kite
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Cloudsfan
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Thanks for sharing your experience and please keep it coming in as it grows !
As for kitesurfing, what kind of board were you using ? Were you keeping ground in such low wind (8 to 12 kts is pretty low in my book !) ?
Cheers
PS : btw we weigh exactly the same, so I'm even more interested !
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Taper123
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I was using an old Cabrinah Double Agent 180 for a board. I thought it was too low of wind until I tried it... and was able to go slightly upwind.
Witha newer wide board, I bet this thing would really be a blast.
What do you do with your foils?
Charger 8, 12, 19
Scorpion 10, 16
And other foils...
Flexifoil Bug, CrazyFly board, MBS atb
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Quote: | Originally posted by Taper123
I was using an old Cabrinah Double Agent 180 for a board. I thought it was too low of wind until I tried it... and was able to go slightly upwind.
Witha newer wide board, I bet this thing would really be a blast. |
A spleene door for light winds would do nicely...........
17m Ozone Zephyr (2012)
15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
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Cloudsfan
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OK thanks
And yes, a Door definitely would better things even more (as we know Chargers like apparent wind, and these boards giving quick acceleration with no
rocker)
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Taper123
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After flying again... realized instead of pigtails, what I needed was the "Kook-proof" connectors for the rear lines to add the knot to attach the
flying lines too. That, coupled with the various attachment points (multiple knots) for the front lines, no rear extensions would have been needed.
It's amazing the things you learn when you download/read the manual instead of just winging it at the beach.
What do you do with your foils?
Charger 8, 12, 19
Scorpion 10, 16
And other foils...
Flexifoil Bug, CrazyFly board, MBS atb
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Kamikuza
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Yeah... I got a kite. Or two...
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