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question.gif posted on 16-2-2011 at 04:12 AM
Bar grip replacement?


Is there such stuff?



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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 04:43 AM


i recoated my nav bar in handle bar grip tape from a cycle shop. i couldnt get a colour match so went with black.



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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 06:36 AM


I'm trying to avoid that kind of solution - everything I've read seems to suggest it's a bad idea for the water ...

The Nav bar advertises EVA bar grip ... there's adhesive backed stuff like that around - on the interweb :(
This looks like it could be the ticket! http://www.sailboats.co.uk/Product~ProGrip_Self_Adhesive_150...

... and I saw some place that offered cutting service, like I imagine is needed for the bars colour detailing ... but now I can't find it again :no:



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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 06:38 AM


Google the materials used for grips on fishing rods. Hypalon is one of the better materials. The come in different lengths, internal diameters, profiles (round, oval, octagonal, etc.), and materials.

The upside is that because of their intended use, they are generally well suited to salt water/UV environments.
Comes in
  • Round, oval, and trinagular/octagonal (harder to find) profiles
  • Various internal and external diameters
  • Various levels of cushioning
  • Assorted colors
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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 06:47 AM


Not really :lol: the ends of the bar are still on with no visible ways of removing them ie. no rivets :dunno: how you'd get a tube over it all with adhesive on the back :o
Will have a troll through a fishing store though ...

This'd be cute :lol: zebra bar :D
http://www.foamorder.com/neoprene.html#colors

but that's 3mm neoprene sheet ...

Oh WHAT do they really use and where do they get it?!?!?!



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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 11:24 AM


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Not really the ends of the bar are still on with no visible ways of removing them ie. no rivets how you'd get a tube over it all with adhesive on the back

I was afraid of that. If you have bar ends that can't be removed, it's still doable. The Hypalon tubes can be very carefully sliced and glued to the bar. You need to be careful not to use too much glue/contact cemet and use one that has a reasonable set time. Wait for everything to fully cure. To address the seam, you can cover the hypalon in heat shrink. Fishing supplies stores sell a unique kind that office have a "flocked" grip pattern on them. Diameter shrinkage is generally around 50%, with little of no decrease in length. Shrinking temperture is around 150 degrees farenheit, so you don't have to worry about slagging other bits, although it wouldn't hurt to remove leaders and go slow.

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Oh WHAT do they really use and where do they get it?!?!?!

If "they" is kite manufacturers, most use EVA foam tubes that are custom made and branded. They generally have the advantage of being able to assemble the grips before the bar-ends are installed.

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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 12:13 PM


I found some thin (2mm) EVA foam sheets (about 14"x17") in a variety of colours at a dollar store in the crafts section. I saw the same stuff at a bigbox craft store too.

I cut it slightly over sized so one side overlaps the other, glued it with a waterproof outdoor contact cement to an aluminum bar I made. Trim the overlap off with a sharp knife to achieve a nicely butted up fit at the joints.



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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 12:13 PM


Try Chinook,
They make windsurf booms and sell re-grip or if you ship your bar to them , they can re-grip it for you.
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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 05:44 PM


Yes "they" are kite bar makers :)

I'd like to avoid glue ... as with electronics, I have a very poor success-rate with glue :( and it ends up absolutely everywhere, don't ask me how. Hence the desire for self-adhesive stuff :D tape I do ok with :lol:

What ZeroG found sounds like what I've found - on the net :( personally, I'd rather pay to have stuff glued though :lol: Looking at Chinook now ...



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[*] posted on 16-2-2011 at 09:16 PM


I think I went the route I took because at the time Chinook grip needed to be glued on and I was having trouble sourcing a better solution too.

Here are some illustrated instructions for glueing (it's technique and tips would apply for tape too)...
How to regrip a boom



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[*] posted on 19-2-2011 at 07:17 AM


How about this stuff? 2mm medium density EVA foam ... self adhesive tape ... won't ever find out if it feels right without just buying some though :o am betting i get raped on shipping but :(





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[*] posted on 19-2-2011 at 09:38 AM


If the bar is eventually bound to the water, make sure the adhesive is marine grade. Some adhesives don't maintain their integrity in salt water environments and the result in not pretty.

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[*] posted on 19-2-2011 at 06:50 PM


Bought from a boating site, they're used as deck grips for optimists and things ... I have a spare bar to test on too :) we'll see - I've blown more money on stranger tests :D

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[*] posted on 20-2-2011 at 05:15 AM


Yeah.... I really liked some of your organizational mods. :thumbup: :smilegrin:

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[*] posted on 20-2-2011 at 06:39 PM


Say what?



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[*] posted on 20-2-2011 at 08:03 PM


I’ve thought about this issue/problem allot. I’ve come to pretty good conclusion.

Step 1 Dissemble depower bar
Step 2 dip in a latex/poly-blend paint of your choice. (this will be up to you) I’m not going to do your research.
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[*] posted on 20-2-2011 at 08:25 PM


Good idea! But how do I get the bar ends off? :lol:



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[*] posted on 20-2-2011 at 09:54 PM


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Say what?


You were bored one night and posted pics of a container that you found/modded for storing something... forgot what exactly, but you had basically created a little niche/compartment for all the related things.

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[*] posted on 20-2-2011 at 10:19 PM


Might have been my GoPro case ... have outgrown it though and now use a camera bag with a few plastic boxes :D



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[*] posted on 21-2-2011 at 08:00 AM


i guess you leave them on?:dunno:



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[*] posted on 21-2-2011 at 06:10 PM


That was the plan ... I'll ask FSer too though



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[*] posted on 2-3-2011 at 06:51 PM


Got them the other night - looks just like the real thing! Did a trial mount onto a pole thing - worked fine, looks good ... should be the shizzle! Now, to figure out how to get the bar ends off ....



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[*] posted on 2-3-2011 at 07:40 PM


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Now, to figure out how to get the bar ends off ....


Use the Force, Luke....





:lol:

Seriously, I believe you said there was no screws or rivets, so I am assuming it is epoxied on.

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[*] posted on 2-3-2011 at 11:47 PM


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[*] posted on 30-9-2011 at 10:50 AM


Diggin this one up..

Did or has anyone tried that Ebay repair kit? I do not need water compatible for this bar, but it never hurts.

I may try the Cycling tape for short term and keep that ebay kit in mind as a back-up plan, so please let me know!



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[*] posted on 28-7-2015 at 05:57 AM


Reviving :)

Just ordered some Wilson tennis overgrips to re-wrap a bar. Will post the results. If that doesn't work, I will probably just use hockey tape or see if I can find some EVA foam and Aqua seal.
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[*] posted on 28-7-2015 at 07:17 AM


I've done tennis grip and bicycle grip (the non-cork) with success in the past. Depending on the size of tear or if I'm replacing the whole thing. I love that bicycle grip comes in so many colors, and has worked out a bit better for me than tennis grip. Let us know how the overgrips go Proletariat, that stuff is always so thin, I can't see using it as the bottom layer.
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[*] posted on 28-7-2015 at 10:40 AM


Cool. I'll post before / after pics. The factory grips on the north 5th element are totally trashed. Seems to be a theme with these kites (as is valve failure?). I'm peeling the whole damn thing off and starting over. The bar is pretty thick so I was just going to wrap it as is.

Should I use cement, aquaseal or something else on the wrap or just wrap it tight and secure the ends?
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[*] posted on 28-7-2015 at 02:01 PM


Just an idea. Might try this:



Or find some silicone tape that fuses to itself. Just run a search for silicone tape to find the stuff:


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