kiteboyza
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PL Vapors falling apart
seems a few Vapors falling apart from what I hear on the UK racing scene.....
" Bridles pull out, no reinforcements at connection points plus overpowered = BANG!"
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okay so the subject is Vapors falling apart - which sounds like all of them, then the comment says "a few" so just wondering was it really one or two
people with a couple of kites.
I wonder if it really is a problem or a couple of kites that had defects (because they do have re-inforcing) that might be missed until something
happens?
Where is this discussion - racekites or kitecrowd or?
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hmm interesting.....I also know that they switched vapor fabrics a few months ago, so I wonder which vapors are breaking, the old fabric or the new
fabric
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kiteboyza
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just some general info I been reading from my friends on Facebook who have been racing at Ainsdale
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at least not as bad as pansh eh boyza??
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kiteboyza
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just thought i'd mention it, now there is a massive PL attack...lol...all kite pop at some stage boys, no matter what they are
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hmmm,.strange story,..I had a serie in the first fabric,....raced more then a year with it, now I have my new set with the new fabric... nicer colour,
quality the same or better preformance, I weigh, 120 kg, driving ALWAYS overpowered AND agresive,...
So, I think that they will do fine....if you land them upside down, full throtle...hmm I do not know what will happen with any kite...
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kiteboyza
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Hey Ozzie, speak to John Trainor, he was telling me about them and being a PKD pilot was enjoying it...lol
Goed gaan, sien julle Hollanders by NABX
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If Ozzy can't break them, then I would think it might have been abuse. If there was a defect I am sure they would take care of it.
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Quote: | Originally posted by kiteboyza
just thought i'd mention it, now there is a massive PL attack...lol...all kite pop at some stage boys, no matter what they are |
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Let me get this straight: someone heard about someone else somehow crashing a vapor, so decides to open a topic "Vapors falling apart", without even
posting a source? ... really?
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Snarky post deleted to avoid throwing gas on the fire.
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The source came from Facebook.
I've had my team series for one season and no issues just a few pin holes from the beach (shells) at world cup. We ripped a few of the smaller sizes
at nabx last year but also keep in mind that we were out in massive wind most would not venture in. Something has to give.
If it was factory, PLP will replace it and make things right.
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We have been selling the Vapors since they were first released. At this time we have never had a single Vapor returned to us for any type of defect
or issue. The quality control and durability of the Vapor (and all of the Peter Lynn kites) appears to be top notch - according to our sales and own
experiences.
Dealing with Peter Lynn directly, I can assure anyone that if there is an issue of any kind, Peter Lynn Products will do whatever possible to rectify
the problems without any hassles at all.
As mentioned, direct blows into the ground at full force will destroy any power kite, regardless of who made it or what model it is. With our
experience with the Vapors and the conditions we use them in here, I would have to assume that this would be a major factor to the problems / issues
that the facebook user is experiencing.
Just my two cents worth.
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kiteboyza
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I merely quoted from a friends Facebook and now it's been blow out of proportion, best I dont share the rest of the FB discussion ...lol
No it's not a factory issue(all the dealers on this thread can relax)
No there will be no recall
No there is no duff bunch of Vapors
Well done for the sensible reply awindofchange
yeesh, you guys can start a riot in a beercan, get a grip!
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boyza, its like going into a manchester pub and shouting united are #@%$#!, what reaction do you expect to get? we all know peter lynn build quality
is beyond reproach and anything that got missed by quality control would be rectified, so i dont see where you are trying to go with this thread? if
you want to bash a brand, have a look in your own back yard before you trash a name that is deep in the game!!
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Yes, boyza your wording in your initial post wasn't informative, but inflammatory. Exaggerated and inflammatory statements will always start a flame
war. There is only 1 that looks bad in this exchange.
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Aidz and Ryan did get first and second on the vapors
One guy lost a 5m but that was run over by a buggy and ended up in 4 bits. The same guy crashed his 4m and 7 cells went also his 3m but that went in
the air no crash. Big ken had cell blow in his 3m and he is a big guy we think it was caused by the deep water crossings and shock load but also matt
lost a few bridle points and he must be 7 stone wet.
All the other kites went home in good shape
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I don't think that Kiteboyza was attempting to attack Peter Lynn directly. Or trying to start a flame war. He was simply talking about an issue that
was being discussed on Facebook and making the users of PKF aware of it.
Regardless, no kite is totally indestructible and under extreme conditions where products are pushed to their utmost limits, failures are bound to
happen.
Talking about kite brands is like talking about car manufacturers. You are never going to convince a Ford loyalist to purchase a Chevy product.
Neither are you ever going to convince a Flexifoil fan to purchase an Ozone product.
When comparing the performance of high end race kites ---- well, it really comes down to the pilot - much more than the kite ever could be. There are
tons of arguments about how many first place finished both the Vapor and/or the Yakuza GT have received. Truth be told, either of these kites in the
hands of an experienced race pilot would be a masterful combination that would be hard to beat. People who think that by purchasing "Kite A because
THAT pilot won with it" they will instantly become a world class race contender are not really living in reality. I admire the skills these race
pilots have, but they didn't just go out and buy a Vapor, they worked on their skills, learned, trained and became the pilot they are today. The
equipment only helps them achieve their goals, it doesn't guarantee they will get them.
The way I see it, it doesn't matter what brand/make/model/color/shape/ride you fly as long as the smile on your face is as big as possible. That's
all that really matters.
Anyways, that's my two cents.
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Trikbitz
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Think that's a good reply there awindofchange
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