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cody1012
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thumbup.gif posted on 8-12-2005 at 08:18 PM
Want to get back in


Ok heres the deal I once loved powerkiting and some how slipped away from it and I have to get back in. I have never really owned a real power kite all I had was a 3 meter nasa kite which on a good day could lift me. But of course that was when I weighed about 90 pounds lol. So of course I weigh more these days which of course means more money if I want to get dragged around:yes: So of course I am on a budget but I still was eyeballing a few kites in my price range. What I want to be doing is alot of jumping and I guess its called scudding lol. I now weigh about 135 and seem to put on a few pounds every now and then sense I am still growing. I do have previous experiences with flying power kites and I was pretty good at it so I think I am able to steer clear of anything less then 4 meters. I was thinking about getting a c-quad or a peter lynn pepper or anything else you can recomend in that price range. If its not to much trouble I would like some advice on which would be better for what I want and a good size (remember air time is key for me)
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[*] posted on 8-12-2005 at 10:22 PM


As you can see, I am very new myself, at least to this forum. I just ordered my first real power kite a few days ago and am awaiting its arrival. The one I ordered is a Flexifoil Blade III 4.0m, which is definitely out of your price range. I went with that because I already have a fair amount of quad-line experience and have about 70lbs of weight on you.

Well, the first thing that many people are going to say (so I might as well be the first) is that you are going be bitten (i.e. hurt/injured) if you get in over your head, specifically if you want to go straight into jumping. The power kites of today are entirely different beasts than what they were several years ago. Don't discount the smaller kites. There are people who weigh 300lbs that have gotten air on a 3m or smaller kite, all depending upon the winds of course. While you can get air with the small kites, even 2m, the larger the kite, the more "floaty" it will be and the softer the landing.

Don't be hesitant to start with something smaller. Odds are it will kick you around while learning, and you will then get into something larger. When you get that larger kite and have more experience, there will be times when it is too windy for the big one, so you can still take out the small one and get thrown around quite a bit.

I would say that you should look in the 3m range, mainly because of your lighter weight (compared to me at least). Just because you've flown a 3m Nasawing doesn't mean that you can jump straight to a larger parafoil traction kite, they are entirely different animals.

As far as actual kites, the Peter Lynn C-Quad is alright, though it isn't a true parafoil and still has spars that can break. The Pepper is also supposed to be good. You may also want to check out the PKD Buster, the Ozone Imp or Fury and the HQ Beamer, they are all nice kites. If you have never done quad-line before, now would be a good time to start since it is how most all of the big power kites are controlled.

There is a guy here on the forums, Scoopy, who sells several of the main brand power kites and can hook you up and offer great advice.



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[*] posted on 9-12-2005 at 10:55 AM


Cody,
It sounds like what you want is a Blade. Lots of lift for jumping. They can, however, be a bit much to handle in gusty winds. I have a couple of Beamers and like them lots for cetain things, but they're not good jumping kites. My 5m does pretty good in a fresh breeze, but its still not like kites known for lifting. My current fav is my 7m ozone frenzy, but its a bit pricey. My advice would be to get ahold of Scoopy. I think he could steer you in the right direction.
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[*] posted on 9-12-2005 at 04:02 PM


alright sounds like you all have some very good suggestions and all of them point to scoopy so I think I will send him a pm. Also I might be getting 200 or so more dollars from selling my guitar so thet will help me a little bit more
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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 01:09 AM


Talk to the Corey Lama, he has a web site and a whole store of kites to choose from to get going. I am experienced with a few years of stacking duo control kites. When you stack four flexifoil 6's together, they can really drag one around. However, taking off and landing is too much work, maybe I getting lazy in my old age. When I decided to switch to quad control, I decided to go with a new kite but old tech. so I bought a skytiger 18. It yanks me around good and I have been launched a few feet off the ground a couple of times in the last month or so of learning. Quad control is considerably easier to take off and land. I am in the process of upgrading to the skytiger 40 in a week or so. Once again, contact the lama.:singing:



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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 08:31 PM


the 4.0 m crossfire is an excellent kite with lots of lift . you wont be disappointed , and its cheaper than the more expensive flexifoil brand.



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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 08:35 PM


yeah I have heard alot of good things about all these kites but I also seen a new one I would like to throw into the discussion. What about the radsail pro 2 4.0 or 5.0
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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 08:47 PM


radsails are good 2, a little more power than a beamer but a little less than a crossfire. if you dont have much to spend then i guess a 4.o radsail pro is good i used to have a 6.om radsail a few months back, its a cool kite.. but it aint no blade or crossfire.



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[*] posted on 10-12-2005 at 08:54 PM


see my problem now is that people are saying get a 5.0 then others are going thats to much get a 4.0. The problem is I don't want to pay that much money and not get yanked around. I would rather have to much power then not enough. because I can always take it out in light winds then work up to bigger winds
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[*] posted on 11-12-2005 at 03:03 PM


if you crave power i mean alot then get a 5.0m , if you like power and want to be a little safer get a 4.om, personally i love power but i like to be safe also so thats why i have high aspect kites like blades and crossfire and low aspect like beamers.



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[*] posted on 11-12-2005 at 03:52 PM


To be honest I can deal with a big kite and I do crave for alot of power. Plus it is never to windy were I live so I think I will go with a radsail 5.0 or a bullet or crossfire or a beamer it just depends on what mood Im in when I am ready to buy lol. Besides it sounds like you cant go wrong with any of them.
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[*] posted on 12-12-2005 at 06:57 AM


Hey Cody, just got your PM, here is what I think. If you want to get air, you need to look toward these 3 kites-

Flexifoil Blade
Hq Crossfire
Ozone Riot

All 3 kites will get you what you want. The crossfire will have the best price, but not quite the performance. Im not saying its not enough, but its a good intermediate kite, whereas the other 2 are high performance kites. Like always, you get what you pay for.

Since you had a 3m nasawing, you should be fine with a 4m kite. If you keep your head about you, you could probably start with a 5 meter. ONLY because you have a bit of experience. The only problem with a 5 meter kite for the winter is that there are higher winds. Most 5 meter kites are a bit dangerous. They are small enough to be fast and aggressive, but large enough to hurt ya.

If you want you can call me @ the shop, and Ill be more than happy to talk with you and help you get pointed in the right direction, or you can email, or just keep posting here.

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[*] posted on 12-12-2005 at 11:14 AM


The thing about having only a 5m is you won't be able to fly as often. I think if you're going to have onnly one kite, start with a 4 so when the wind pics up you won't have to pack up. My first power kite was a 3.6 and I still fly it all the time. Its nice 'cause I can take it out in almost anything.
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