What kind of diffrence can i expect between a Yakuza Gt and a quadrifoil XXL pro? Asuming the kites are close in size. Any help is apreciated i live where theres not much traction kiters around so it hard for me to find out about the new stuff
Thanks

2 Monsters for sure !

The Yak is state of the art. A true competetor on the race circuit even today.

The Comp is and old style crossover bridle. Complicated and heavy. The ( Chicra ? ) materail is interesting. Everything about the kite is interesting but it isn't a Yak . It's a lifty kite that folks would probably compare to a blade rather than Yak.

Canuck has the Kitesurfer model The closed cell makes it an amazing kite for low wind. Once filled it holds it's shape well. The light material adds to the low end and at about 9m it is easy enough to turn. School bus easy . For session saving I am VERY impressed with the Comp Kitesurfer XXL ! No experience with the open cell.

to be honest mine is the 31gr Ripstop Polyester pro model

I haven't seen a Yakuza GT but it likely far surpasses the XXL for speed (it is a high aspect race kite) and stability. My XXL KiteSurfer has lots of power but you have to keep a bit of brake on or the leading edge collapses near the edge of the window then a tip can get folded into the bridle. Big difference in price. The XXL looks like it is closest in size to a 6.8m GT

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Originally posted by XXL What kind of diffrence can i expect between a Yakuza Gt and a quadrifoil XXL pro?

LOTS!!!

its like compairing............. hhhmmmmm well you just cannot compare them

one is a buggy kite and the other was more meant for kitesurfing on FB

the Yak is Torray, and the XXL is Ripstop Poly (light, has bigger squares, water resist)

beside buying a kite, what are you trying to do? land, snow, dirt, water???

Mostly land use i like the surfer quadrafoil becacuase it stays inflated very good. But rarely do i use it over water so it not nessary. The main reason i bought it was it was a good deal on ebay. I realy like how it flys and want something close or better. I realy like how it dosent pick you up like the original rectangle quadrifoils did. Hope this helps
Uses bugging and just fun also Also if some one knows a better kite than a yakuza Gt i open to suggestions

Better than the Yak GT??? Don't think that is possible. There are however some kites that are very similar to the Yak GT though, weather they are better or not really depends on who is using them and for what purpose. The PL Vapor is one of those kites. It is the current world record speed holder and is an extremely awesome kite. To say it is better though.....that is just starting a huge debate.

It's like saying which Ferrari is better, the red one or the blue one.

if you talk to jelles on here. kitebuggyspeedshop.com he will steer you to thwe spirits or jojo rm+ also both really good race kites. whats your experiance like. if you have been buggying a long time all these are good choices. if you have less experiance i would suggest a flow or method from ozone a little easier to fly than the race kites.

How are race kites diffiicult to fly? Pyro22487

The race kites are not necessarily "more difficult to fly", but they do tend to require more experience to keep under control than the lower aspect ratio kites.

The Race kites usually have a very high aspect ratio, this gives them tons of speed and speed means power. They don't really put out that much more power than the lower aspect ratio kites of the same size, they just get up to maximum velocity much quicker, meaning they deliver max power longer in the window. In the buggy, the race kites are capable of reaching a higher maximum velocity which means that at top speed, they are capable of producing more power. A lower aspect ratio kite could have the same speed potential as a race kite, but it will take it much longer and more work to reach maximum velocity. To put is plainly, a Flow could go as fast as a Yakuza, it will just take 10 times longer to do it.

Because of the speed of a race kite, it will have the tendency to overshoot the edge of the window where a lower aspect ratio kite will slow down and stop when it hits the edge of the window. In a buggy, the ability of the race kite to continue to produce power on the edge gives it an advantage when pulling upwind tacks. The downside is that if the kite is on the edge and you get a gust, the fast acceleration will cause the kite to overshoot and then luft or ball up. Experienced pilots will have a better feel for what the kite is doing and can keep this irritation to a minimum.

You can start out with a Race kite as your first kite but most people end up spending more time untangling the kite after it overshoots than they do flying. Normally a lower aspect ratio kite will give you much more fun and let you learn faster with less irritation.

I also want to give a +1 on Pyro's suggestion of the Jojo RM or Spirit. Those are also awesome race kites that fit into the same category as the Yak GT and the Vapor. There are also others as well.

Hope that helps.

Sorry i would have went more into detail but I was on a short break way to break it down and I will tell you my flow will haul. Not sure of the speed I went but almost 7 miles in 15 minutes cant be to bad right. :frog:

Cooper, Uturn, PKD and Zibre all also make race kites that are of quality.

I find the Cooper to be the best all for ease of handling. Yet it will still keep you in the pack when it's race day.

Looks like you can pick up Vapors second hand on here now!

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To put is plainly, a Flow could go as fast as a Yakuza, it will just take 10 times longer to do it.

Maybe with rockets attached to the Flow. Otherwise, you're dreaming!!!

Easy to test: do a big long run with a Flow and record your fastest time, then do the same with a Yak/Vapor/Century/Method. If your not 10mph faster with the Yak/Vapor, I'll eat my hat.:

ps: I'm not having 'a go' at the Flow, I have the 3m and some of my favorite sessions have been with it. An excellent kite. Just not as fast as a race kite no matter how much time you give it.