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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 05:23 AM
light wind buggy techniques


i live in northern virginia so there are no fields that are really flat. and there are no large open flats like there are out west. therefore i need to learn how to ride in light wind. usually i do kite loops to help build speed, but then i cant maintain speed afterwards. i have a big light wind kite but i need some help



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 06:34 AM


Why can't you build speed...? After the downloop you should have a boost of speed... :wee:



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 06:38 AM


the wind is never really constant



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 07:02 AM


change your name to longlineflyr, it will help alot. So will the apparent wind generated by the longer lines.



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 07:17 AM


Gently steer upwind to keep your lines tight and sine your kite. You must keep your kite moving or it will die. Anticipate your moves well in advance. Eventually you will build enough apparent wind and you will feel the "lock in" to a nice forward pull and ooooh boy....
Are you using a harness and strop...? That helped me alot in my low wind session/lesson this year. I was flying without at first but getting tired from all the work. The harness changed that for me. I was able to hit 22.9mph in 8-10mph winds with a 6.7core...



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 07:40 AM


Is the crossfire your light wind kite? IIRC, it is a heavily built kite. The size is good but it might be hampering itself with its heavy duty heritage. Long lines would tame it's aggressiveness at the edge though.



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 08:02 AM


After you loop you should than dive / wave your kite back. Also after you loop you might be trying to let your kite run ahead, you want to put some amount of pressure on your brake lines. Enough to generate power but not to stall the kite.



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 08:04 AM


loop/follow and repeat till speed builds then set your edge/line..............................longer lines 27/30m will also help
seems that 10m CF 2 should go really low...............



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 09:30 AM


i changed to setting on my 10m crossfire II to the fast setting and it helped alot i also used long lines
i worked pretty well



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 10:12 AM


Beamer Bob nailed it, that 10m is heavy and slow responding in light, up-n-down conditions. You're gonna have to work that one just as fast as you can to keep it inflated and generating enough apparent wind/power to work the least bit up wind. However, in 5 to 7mph smooth stuff, that thing will park right above your head and let you gain yardage with upwind turns like it's cool.

It's a tough one to fly in most any condition but it's also a killer skill builder as everything else seems so tame in comparison. Of course, leisurely cruisin' has a place, but not while in the shadow of a Crossfire II. That's PLAY TIME !!!



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 10:26 AM


absolutely i have not got a lot of play time lately because the wind has been dead until today but i cant wait to get it up in 10mph its going to be crazy and i cant wait



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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 05:12 PM


Longer lines will make a big difference. 30m lines instead of 20 add a couple of knots to the bottom end of my kites. I will move towards the kite (subtly) on the down 'stroke' and away from the kite on the up 'stroke'. When I loop the kite, I will move towards it just enough to keep the kite from getting behind me and slowing me down. I'll be keeping close tabs on the line tension - if I feel it slacking off, I will immediately turn upwind. Skip to 6:19 on this video - sort of what I'm talking about!






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[*] posted on 30-7-2011 at 09:30 PM


Man u are blessed to have access to a place like that I am stuck with tiny soccer fields covered with light poles



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