Possible?

I have a little fountain, i think im going to try and rig up... but basically water would fall from the top, and spin a wheel, that would pump water to the top... and so on.. you think it'll work?




Any other perpetual motion machine-heads here?

It will work when they invalidate the laws of physics

That looks to have made it work. I can think of lots of resistance in the system but it seems to overcome it somehow. Video could be showing the good times.

Heres prolly the most famous example






I never liked laws all that much anyway lol

Love seeing this stuff.

I knew you would bro lol

That is wild. Thanks for sharing.

Ten minutes is not perpetual

It is physically impossible [pun intended]
Entropy happens :singing:

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Originally posted by Cerebite It is physically impossible [pun intended] Entropy happens :singing:

Oh yeah, entropy.....THAT would also explain why my coffee is cold and i can't find my car keys

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Originally posted by mukluk Quote: Originally posted by Cerebite It is physically impossible [pun intended] Entropy happens :singing: Oh yeah, entropy.....THAT would also explain why my coffee is cold and i can't find my car keys

Huh ... in that case, I know what entropy is - my wife.

Drew. Check out a ram pump a little different than what you are looking for but really interesting. It pumps water uphill by the water flowing downhill.
Scott

Conservation of energy does put limitations to such devices, but from what little bits I know of physics are there not discrepancies between nano devices and macro physics - hence quantum physics? Wouldn't changing the scale of such devices or at least their principle functions to a nano level make them more prone to actually function perpetually?

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Originally posted by flyguy0101 Drew. Check out a ram pump a little different than what you are looking for but really interesting. It pumps water uphill by the water flowing downhill. Scott

Yes, very little at a time. Relies on hydraulic pressure from the downhill drop (known as head) being rammed thru the feed tube and into the valve. The pulse pushes a small splash at a time through the discharge tube uphill. Most videos on youtube show the ram pump and not the discharge. 99% of the water is "wasted" by the valve, but a very small amount beats gravity and friction.
I fooled around with this and microhydro in the yard years ago. Learned our small stream can produce about enough "energy" to charge a car battery.....in a few days.....using an alternator/ DC charging motor. Battery then runs 12v lights and an inverter to run small power tools in the shed. Nice thing about microhydro is it's producing 24/7 unlike solar or wind.

chaos rules!

velocity in a gravity phree vacuum , a weak theoretical winner at best.

better to work with time, its already perpetual. our added unit of dimension make it a manageable illusion.

i actually prefer it in its dimensionless form ...pheeding on the NOW , be present! put your mind in motion.

Im teaching physics this year, I might bring up this idea in class

notice no pedaling that is a perpetual motion machine if i have ever seen one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fofuwA2iOfE

no offense to anyone that told me it wont work... but its really funny... if you look through comments, they are either awesome idea, cool fountian, or WORNT WORK :rageface:

lol!

people get worked up about these things.. lol i dont get that!

i honestly think a gravity based machine is possible... simply because its another force at work... kind of a physics bs loophole... back when, people raged about the shape of the earth, why things fell, you name it people had their opinions... i just think the correct design has yet to be seen..... will it revolutionize the world, prolly not... because if it works, all energy would be used to continue the machine's functions... cant create energy, but maybe recycle it lol!

at any rate its a fun concept to think about!

ps... that pump track is sweet as hell!

Well, I think that too much science training makes people cranky generally, and stuff like this just puts us over the edge!

An alternate fun project on the off chance that it doesn't work (no offense!):

How about a cool kinetic sculpture / rube goldberg contraption that just looks like it's working? You could conceal a water reservoir in the base somewhere and make the system leaky, so a little more water fell down than was pumped up each time...if you kept the friction super low you might only have to top it up once a day or something, and you could use the reservoir water for the tomatoes or something. Better yet drain it to a buried soaker hose and make it really hard to find. The geeks would enjoy it just as much as everyone else....

just a thought