Now that I'm familiar with the forms except quoting, someone please help, but anyway now that I have narrowed down the kite buggy, I'm moving on the
kite board. I have skateboarded my whole life, primarily half pipes and ramps, and want to get a board to complete my collection of kite toys. What
are you riding, whats hot and whats not. Ready to buy. Im currently flying a 5m prism tensor, and I just purchased a 3m ozone method which I have not
flown. I'm flying with handles and have flown with a bar once. I don't have a harness yet and need to get all of the things to board. I'm 6 feet tall
and weigh 215lbs. Thanks and I look forward to hearing what you pro have to suggest. Thanks in advance! Wes
here is where I got mine from http://trampa.mountainboard.net/ they got some info on there too. I got mine custom made instead of what they have ready to go. They ain't
cheap though...
the 35 degree board puts your deck closer to the ground. this is better for speed runs and carving. it gives you more stability. the 15 degree keeps
your deck higher off of the ground and gives your more flexibility and is much better for freestyle action
I paid 300+ for my first board, a GI prodigy 90. Great deck, but bit of a narrow stance for my preference.(stance width is a VERY important factor)
Kept my eye out for a replacement on here and got my Akoni for a steal from another user who hadn't ever gotten into it.
yes, TRAMPA is just the top-of-the-line. But there's no need to spend the $600 on it right now, I would totally recommend you just keep your eye out
for a deal that users have shared on here, it's about the best way to pick one up cheap, and learn on it. You decide you're going to upgrade, then
look at Trampa/GI Akoni Pro/MBS Pro.
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
What about a harness system, and I'm assuming I would use the existing bar that came with my kite? What would be the best harness to go with, one that
would be comfortable in the buggy. I heard you dont want a buckle on the sides or in the back. Weldngod, sweet custom board. I'm sure that cost a
pretty penny. I guess I would go with the freestyle board at 15*. Would the 5m tensor prism be a good kite to work with or should I go with a de-power
arc?
I ride GI boards (Flight 93 and Prodigy 90) but GI appears to be no more :sniff:
You can get a Trampa but as others said you don't need to spend that kind of money up front. Look at the MBS comp line or even the core line if
they'll support your weight. Or go used if you can get a deal.
Harnesses are one of those things you really want to try before you buy. I use a dakine fusion seat harness and love it. I can't use a waiste
harness as they crush my ribs but others hate seat harnesses because they drop the pull point way down.
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
Fixed Bridle Quiver: MAC Bego 400, JOJO ET Instinct 2.5 & 5.5, Lil Devil 1.5, Sting 1.2
Rides: Ground Industries
I've got an MBS Core 95 i'm selling that is basically new. I never used it other than rolling around the grass a few times. I can't really answer any
technical/performance questions about it, but i'm sure others on here can.
Originally posted by Powerws
eratic winds, about the stance, Is it most like the skateboard stance?
More of a snowboard-width stance, a little wider than a skateboard stance. Like any board sport-stance too narrow will limit you, too wide can hurt
you.
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
I love my trampa (works well for big guys im 225 and ride a 15ply)as well but would agree with most- look used first might want to check out the
dirtsurfing forum, i recently sold a deck on there and i know there were a couple of boards for sale. dont know much about rians board he is selling
but am sure it is in good shape and he is a decent guy to deal with if that board works for you. On a side note you are a bigger guy and i would
definitely look at a board with channel style trucks (ie 35% deck) vs skate trucks because as soon as you start jumping you will be bending skate
axles constantly, also realize that a beginner board is probably not gonna be stiff enough to hold your weight, which means expect to spend a little
more.
Flyguy, great advice, I will be using it with my kite and do want to jump. What about the kite? will my fixed bridle kite work? I have a 3m and a 5m.
One more question? i thought the 35* was for speed? The 15* for freestyle? Are all of the boards the same length?
powers,
most mtn boards are for mtn boarding DUH:D but you really want a shorter board if you want to freestyle so trampa makes a short and long board in
either 15% or 35%- i ride a 35% short trampa with GI bionic trucks( the degrees are strictly for which trucks you use 15% skate 35% channel). mbs has
the core and comp models which i think are also shorter for kiting. as for jumping- slow down a little get some riding down with the 3 and 5 then
look to a depower ( i love my arcs) for jumping. I dont jump on anything smaller then my 12m and really prefer 16 or 18 when trying to go big much
easier on the knees.
Powers- if interested and there is wind i will be at my cabin near blacksburg va over labor day weekend if you want to check out some of my stuff.
Should have the 16m back from the repair shop
scott
Originally posted by Powerws
One more question? i thought the 35* was for speed? The 15* for freestyle? Are all of the boards the same length?
Tip angle (~15° or ~35°) is a determined by the truck style (ATB skate or Channel) used. There can be a little variance here if riser pads
(essentially rubber wedges) are used. The larger tip angle provides more mechanical leverage for initiating turns with the channel style trucks that
either use elastomers or a combination of elastomers and springs. Not as much mechanical force is required to turn the ATB skate trucks whose turning
resistances is provided by a single rubber or polyurethane bushing.
Deck length is generally tied to riding style. Not a hard and fast rule, but longer board for cruising/speed... shorter board for freestyle. The
longer board tends to be more stable and soaks up surface irregularities. A shorter board has less rotational mass for doing spin based tricks and
aerial transitions. Assume exceptions to this like any rule of thumb.
A wider deck will also turn easier (all other factors being the same) also due to mechanical (leverage) advantage. However they sacrifice a little
bit of ground clearance while turning.
Hope that helps.... probably waaaay more than you wanted to know.
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
your will want channel trucks, after skill development your handling will be lighter in the beginning you something thats not too fragile,
a little more deck with decent stance in the 40 inch range , nice deep set board for stability.
big feet come with big frames so don't be afraid to move the bindings a bit. a simple drill will save a broken ankle! (a great board can come with
crappy binding set up)
the shorter, taller set, flat free style boards are more "SKATEBOARD" like , for basic roll. hop and spins ESP> board off stuff are choice. BUT
still a little small for a big guy.
I like GI , though they are currently MIA, plenty of used junk to have fun on and old stock here and there.
THE commitment and use element is the next thing to consider. Go with fun and practical rather $$$ on some tweaky board that you hate and brakes
your foot and your bank. from SKATE to kite land boarding the feel difference is light and quick TO heavy and clunky(but smooths out with time and
use). most of the gear is for <160 lbs. DOWN HILL guys (with teenage bones).
an old GI.... CONFLICT, PATROL 106, AKONI
MBS.... 90pro, 95? super old core 16
SPACEMONKEY on PKF had a recent patrol for $300 , hard to beat that
Indigo, Not too much, with you all the way. I looked at a brand new MBS pro 90 on amazon for $358.00. Mbs site says this would be the best board for
me. I would have bought it but not sure what harness to use. Some say that the waist harness is better for ATB due to a higher contact point, however
I want one for the new buggy I will be buying at WWBB, and some say that the seat harness is better for Buggying, provided the buckle isn't in the
back or the sides. I guess I need to get two harnesses. One for ATB (waist) and one for buggying (Seat). Opinions?
Originally posted by Powerws
Do you have to have a harness starting out?
Only if you are flying depowers.
If starting out you should NOT use a harness on fixed bridles but you should use kite killers (though I don't think I would if I were in a buggy as
they can wrap around an axle if they are long).
When I was flying only fixed bridles, without a harness, I could go for about 1 - 3 hours before needing a break (more on ATB, less on skis) because
your forearms will fatigue.
Harnesses help but they aren't necessary if you aren't flying depowers and they really aren't recommended for starting out as when things go wrong the
go wrong fast and you don't want to be attached to a kite when things go wrong fast.
In my opinion, what you REALLY need is to slow down. Learn your kites and how to control them. Learn to buggy or board with your current kites and
how to control the kites and buggy / board. Try some gear at WWBB maybe even some harnesses - they feel way different under load then just on you.
Then you can make an informed decision.
Trying to learn to fly, buggy, board, hook-in, all at once is way too much. Slow down. The winds and beaches aren't going anywhere. Figure out what
you need and then buy it.
That's just my $0.02.
Depower Quiver: 14m Gin Eskimo, 10m Gin Eskimo III, 6m Gin Yeti, 4.5m Gin Yeti (custom bridle and mixer)
Fixed Bridle Quiver: MAC Bego 400, JOJO ET Instinct 2.5 & 5.5, Lil Devil 1.5, Sting 1.2
Rides: Ground Industries
Originally posted by Powerws
I guess I need to get two harnesses. One for ATB (waist) and one for buggying (Seat). Opinions?
Firstly, +1 regarding B-Roc's comment about only needing a harness if you are starting out on a depower.
If you really want two or more harnesses go for it. However, you might consider an Ocean Rodeo Session Harness. It is a hybrid Harness. It's
essentially like a waist harness, but has padded leg straps that can be worn or removed. The Session II is a tad spendy at ~$210.
The Session I (last year's model, but very, very similar) was on clearance/closeout throughout the summer at $110 shipped directly from Ocean Rodeo,
but sadly they only have it in Size XL (Waist Size 40"-44") now.
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
hardrock is still trying to move his GI Flight for 200$ a GREAT deal....frankly it's the exact sort of deal you're looking for.
NOW, I know the feeling of BUY BUY BUY, but seriously, we really want you to TRY TRY TRY! and find out what you really want before you end up with
some gear that's not quite what you wanted, such an occurrence can really spoil a person on the sport.
Tide? What's a tide? Man, it's 1000 miles to any ocean.
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