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Kite Size Recommendation


I'm interested in getting a kite buggy for the winter and dont know what size and type of kite i will get. I will be using it on the beach in galveston. I have experience kitesurfing and want a kite with a control bar. I weigh around 150 lbs. What size and type kite should i get?
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[*] posted on 27-11-2011 at 01:55 PM


If you are comfortable with the kites you have then you may not need anything else? Nothing says you can't use inflatable kites with a buggy . Going with a kite you know well will be an advantage when picking up the new skill.

If you already kite on water buggy won't be too hard to pick up. You will fly a size smaller than you would on water. If you aren't crashing your kite too often on water it will happen less with the buggy.

If you are out to buy a depower foil for buggy closed cell is worth looking at . Then you can cross over to water with the same kite.

What is the average speed / condition of the wind you will be riding in ?



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[*] posted on 27-11-2011 at 01:57 PM


ALL OF THEM. Kidding. Depends on the surface. Hardpack or soft sand will determine what kind of buggy you should be looking for.(If you're on soft sand, you'll pretty much require a 'bigfoot' model with large tires) Surface conditions + average expected winds at your location + your skill level can determine what kite you should be flying.

For absolute ease of use, I recommend foils like the ozone access (depower) or flow(fixed bridle). Since you have experience kitesurfing, you might not mind pumping, therefore you could use any LEI kite(though of a smaller size than you would require for water.)

For absolute stability, many people will recommend the PeterLynn ARC's, like the Synergy, for how stable they are in gusty conditions.


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[*] posted on 27-11-2011 at 05:51 PM


I buggy and kitesurf too and use foils in the buggy (for the most part).................what are your avg winds there? Do you plan on buggying when winds are too lite to get out on the water or buggy reguardless of winds..............



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[*] posted on 25-12-2011 at 08:44 AM


I will mostly be going in winds like 10-15. My dad wants to learn on this too and hes had very limited kitesurfing lessons.
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[*] posted on 25-12-2011 at 08:54 AM


also, if possible i would like a kite with a control bar
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[*] posted on 25-12-2011 at 09:31 AM


I am stlightly confused ?

What kites are you using on water now ?

What is your skill level ?

How much are you looking to spend ?



Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
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[*] posted on 25-12-2011 at 02:59 PM


I would say hook up with Van from VTT buggies. He is down in Galveston all the time. He may be able to help you out with the buggy and kites. He is on here as Van he should be posting some time soon on here.



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[*] posted on 26-12-2011 at 09:10 AM


Specific Buggy kites would be the Peter Lynn Viper, Reactor, and Vapor. HQ Toxic, Prodigy.

For the person starting out, choose the Viper or Toxic. The others have quite a bit more power. You can fly them with a bar if you wish, but the performance is less than ideal. Fly with a strop line and harness and you get alot more out of your kite.

DePower is also a decent option. You can fly with what you have but hard landings aren't friendly to LEI's on sand. The HQ Neo, Matrixx, or Peter Lynn Charger are some DePower options you currently have that you can do both water and buggying with.

For specific land, HQ Apex, Montana, or Ozone Access, frenzy are decent DePower choices.

Here is a recent outing I had with a Peter Lynn Core (not listed above...it is a 'all around' kite...but as you can see, It did me quite well.
Core in Galveston



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