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sad.gif posted on 26-1-2012 at 08:15 AM
Goodnight Sweet Prince


So, as most of you know (from my endless posts about it lol), Nebraska has some crazy weather. smooth wind is a non existant thing here. It is not uncommon to have gusts doubling the wind speed, from 30 degrees off the current wind direction.... makes for interesting kiting.

So yesterday... wind is kickin.... 25mph is what reads on the websites. Depending on which one you looked at gusts were anywhere from 35-45+. I took some time to gauge it for myself, and to me, the gusts seemed pretty constant, and not too choppy, so i said hey 35, thats Apex weather!

My Apex is a low-lift, newbie friendly, 5m depowerable foil... lol lets rock!

I get out there, and set up and the wind just keeps pounding harder and harder. Well its been a while since my last kite fix, im going buggying! Launch and off i go! My low-lift kite was now lit up like it never has been. 5' jumps are a little too easy, and i begin to pucker lmao!

Dead grass, and partially frozen ground made for some rediculous speed runs! All with the kite, barely moved from the zenith... winds were getting stronger.... at one point i tried to stop and collect myself.... tried.... i was pointed almost completely upwind, with the kite at the far edge of the window, high up, and all i could do was slide, completely sideways, at the mercy of the kite!

a couple of passes later i decided it was getting a little too nuts... nearing the limit of safe flying :lol:. i couldnt park the kite anywhere without tearing off in the bug, or getting a 5' loft. Now comes a new trick for you... i call it the two point shot (maybe a teabag now that i think about it)... while traveling in a buggy, you experience the joy of an OBE, a few feet up and out, then some how land back in the bug :shocked2:

Yeah, it was that kind of day...


Long-as-hell story short... my kite now has an 8" tear in the middle of it. I didnt crash it a single time... just too much wind and the kite just couldnt stay together. Reports were wind gusts topping 50mph

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So, what have we learned?

Apex III 5m top end: ~50mph
2' loft out of buggy, and sat back down: 2 point shot/teabag

Now the questions,
Where should i send my apex, and why wont my helmet cam connect to my pc... yes there is video, but no i cant get to it :mad: (its a tachyon microHD)

Thanks for reading lol... all in all it was a fun day... just a little nuts :rolleyes:



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 08:42 AM


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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 08:43 AM


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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 08:45 AM


Nice story Drew! You've got some kiwis to be out riding with gusts to 50. I've never gotten back in my seat after coming out if my feet came off the footpegs. I call those a "pegstand". Video would be entertaining for sure.

fixmykite.com does fantastic work and should be able to make your kite like new again. Seems like powerzone does repairs as well and he doesn't send anything out that isn't right. I have used fixmykite and had to look to find the repairs.



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 08:46 AM


I've always wondered about this. I imagine the bridles put a lot of strain on the sail.
Would you expect an arc to withstand more wind since all the load is taken by the straps/pigtails?



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 09:08 AM


Ive taken my 10m syn out in slightly lower winds and it did fine.... My bar was too big, so I did some unintentional kiteloops, and had a safety malfunction that sent the kite into a deathspin and snapped a line (bad day)

But the twinskin handled the epic winds without trouble... The dutchies take their chargers out in crazy high wind... Ive heard rumors of the 8m out in 55 knots :crazy:

The anchor points on the kite are stronger on the twinskins than on any foil... and thats where my apex ripped, between b and c bridals (i think)

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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 09:34 AM


U need to buy my 2.5 Rage (and add a AAA bridle adjuster) for those days! :rolleyes:
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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 09:38 AM


dang , put it in the breeze, drew.

any wind over 30mph is gonna be filled with rough parts , inland/offshore even more so.

they will crack! just don't let'em crack U



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 10:10 AM


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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 10:13 AM


50 !! whoa ... even 747's have trouble cross winding in that :wee: ... just sayin' .... glad you lived to tell about it



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 10:54 AM


.... Not my first rodeo in thes winds lol



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 10:59 AM


hugh fan of fixmykite, I think i have an account with them:embarrased:.
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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 11:23 AM


I've done the above the seat hover when I had the 7M NPW9 out in 7-8 mph wind and it picked up to 15 or so. I had the kite right up overhead, and couldn't seem to slow down, next thing I knew I was floating above the seat with my feet barely touching the pegs. wheee!
Glad it turned out ok for you, sorry you had to find the limits on your kite. I've always just put the micro card in the adapter, and plugged it into the card slot on my computer, and the 'import' window opens up, but I have an older Vista machine, and the camera is the SD model. I'd try their (Tachyon's) tech support, they were helpful to me before.



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 11:39 AM


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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 11:47 AM


...so probably a silly question but got to ask...could you send it back to the dealer saying defect in the kite or does that stop at the manufacturers rated top end..? I think most kites would suffer a similar fate but just curious.

BTW, that is some crazy conditions. I think the most I would go is 35mph and that to me is scary...guess I don't like taking chances anymore.

Can't wait to see the video!!!!



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 01:01 PM


Nice story Drew! Glad kites can be fixed! I have had similar experiences, not in 50 mph winds, but have been taken out of the buggy and ended up back in it. Toes were still touching, but that's it!

Ditto on the video!





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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 01:30 PM


I've found that now riding in the Apexx, when I get that much lift, the buggy fits me so well, it goes up with me. I've been 18-24" off the ground with no straps holding me in twice in 1 day. 5.4m Vapor in gusty winds and short lines.



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 03:20 PM


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I've always wondered about this. I imagine the bridles put a lot of strain on the sail.
Would you expect an arc to withstand more wind since all the load is taken by the straps/pigtails?


thats for sure! the straps act like vectorbands in paragliders: they distribute the load over the whole canopy. bridled foil kites usually dont have vector bands. they dont even have alot reinforcements at the bridle attachement tabs. so its really no wonder that you can rip them in heavy conditions.. (i had a look into my old hq apex 1: the attachement point reinforcements are just made from some sort of ripstop-duct-tape and already start to peel off. would be much better if they were sewed to the ribs.. )

here you can see a vector band running across the whole span of the glider:

http://extremeppg.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/enigma-comp...





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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 05:58 PM


The good part of the vid didnt show up... Starting out, and the last pics of my intact kite are tho. And me chasing after my kite bag lol.

Ill slap a rough cut up tonite, dont get your hopes up tho :thumbdown:



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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 07:47 PM


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[*] posted on 26-1-2012 at 08:22 PM


wow sounds crazy--never had an obe like that!! reminds me of the day i had the blade 4m out in 30mph winds--i launched straight downwind (like i always do) and took off like a rocket--i hit 50 no prob, and maybe even 60 and then had to let go as i was rapidly running out of room--thats the fastest ive ever gone-it was damn near impossible to control the kite in those winds too......
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