Feyd
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Charger owners using Navi bars.
Just wondering how many Charger owners here are flying with the Navigator bar.
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flyjump
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Big bar for my 19, and medium bar for my 12
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Mood: slick as a leopard!!
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YEP same as Adam and my 15 on the medium
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Mood: Semper in excretum sum sed alta variat................alwayz in the crap but the depth varys.........
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Ive flown 3 different LEIs on my Navi bar......................two with c kite short throws the other with a longer throw.............the adjutable
stopper ball makes this possible...................good feel thru the bar and lines to the kite..........impressed! Or should I have not answered
because this is a twinskin thread?  :duh:
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Yes.
Why?
Yeah... I got a kite. Or two...
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Large on my 15.
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Feyd
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I'm just curious about something. I'm really looking for Charger riders on Navi bar tridude but it's interesting to know that you like the Navi bar
as a stand alone.
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markite
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myself and three other local riders - what do you want to know from us? It has it's pros and cons.
Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
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Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
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flyjump
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Mark, do you have access to the PL dealer kit for 2012?
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markite
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yes I do, hmm let me have a peak at it again ....
just back from a weekend kiting event and had a great day yesterday - perfect conditions but grabbing the adjustment line on the nav bar was driving
me crazy more so than any other time I remember - probably because I needed to adjust it on the fly more often as I skirted around a turbulent zone
downwind of an island (normally set it and leave it until landing).
Mark Groshens NAPKA KC 13
WindSpeed kites & design - Canada
Peter Lynn Arcs: Charger2 22.5 +18 + 15 + 6.5, Charger I 6, Scorpion 16 + 10, Phantom II 12 + 9, Orig Phantom 9 + 6, Synergy 10 + 8, F 1200, S 840
Ocean Rodeo: Flite 17 + 12, Rise 13 + 10 + 7, Razor 9 + 6
Foils: PL Leopards and Lynx, Airea Raptors, some PL Reactor IIs + IIIs, Libre Spirits, Cross Kite Sonics, Ozone Flow
Peter Lynn Kite Cat for cruising the lakes
buggies: PL XR+, Cameleon Pagona, custom bigfoot, PL Bigfoot, custom ice buggy
Boards: 2 custom directionals, O.R Surf series 6-3 and 5-11, Mako Duke, Mako Skinny, Mako 140 Wide, Mako 150 Wide, Mako King, Brunotti
lots of old school skis, snowboard
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BeamerBob
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I'll be getting Nav bars for the Phantom IIs.
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tridude
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Mood: Semper in excretum sum sed alta variat................alwayz in the crap but the depth varys.........
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Feyd
I'm just curious about something. I'm really looking for Charger riders on Navi bar tridude but it's interesting to know that you like the Navi bar
as a stand alone. |
no problem......if you need any further feedback feel free to ask.......again a very versitile bar, solid safety...... 
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15m Flysurfer Silver Arrow 2
12m Ozone Catalyst (2013)
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Bladerunner
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I use my Medium Nav bar on my 15 Charger on largest option and on my 10m Syn on the inside. I still use my large 07 on my 18 Phanny and 15 Syn.
Also use the Nav' on my 460 and it is a good match.
Are you looking for Pos / Neg things about why we use one ?
For me : #1 positive is the adjustable stopper. #1 negetive is the Y. It makes it impossible to fix an invert at the bar + the lines have a tendency
to get caught in the Y connection.
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
Ken (K2)
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Feyd
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I'm not so much lookng for the pros and cons. I like my Navis and have removed what I consider the cons.
I just have a theory about Charger owners and I want to see if it's plausible.
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flyjump
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Youve got my attention mr krug
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The Y connection kills it for me. The ability to pull a specific top line of the kite when recovering from the water/dry lake bed is an advantage of
the old style bar.
Steve Bateman
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I consider the y line a con as well and will look into building a a Nav from scratch and putting lighter equal length lines on it.
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PL Phantom 12m, 15m, Big Blu 24m+, Synergy 10m, Venom 10m, 13m , Phantom II 12m Vapors 3.8, 5.4, Crosskite Sonic 7m, PKD Combat 10.3m
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Feyd
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I dumped the Y after my third or forth time out with it. I've been riding my modded Navi bars for 3 seasons and love 'em.
Chris Krug-Owner @ Hardwater Kiting. Authorized Dealer of Ozone, Flysurfer, HQ kites.
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Bladerunner
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I am not clear on what you hope to figure out here ?
Are you wondering how many folks are flying Chargers on some other kind of bar?
I stick with stock because I don't trust my own judgement enough to tinker?
Kites: 2.5m Profoil , Quadrifoil XL kitesurfer, NPW 5 Danger.
Flexifoil: 1.7m Sting, 4.9m Blade 3, 9m Blade 2.
Flysurfer : 19m Speed 2 SA, 7m Pulse
Peter Lynn :18m Phantom, 15m Synergy, 10m Synergy, 1200 Farc, 460 Sarc, 130 Tarc, 5m Peel, 4.2m , 6.4, 8.5 C-Quads, 3.5 LS2 single skin.
Rides: Flexi / P.L. Frankin'Buggy , Shaped + straight skiis, sand skis, Coyote blades. Core 95 ATB. RKB R2 ATB .
Ken (K2)
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