From female UK free-style champ + PL rider "Bartiebrat" on Kitecrowd:
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"...have u had any time on the 15 p2 ? whats the turn speed like etc etc .... they as quick as the charger ??"

The proto version I have turns at the same speed but doesn't have that same power in the turn that can trip you up on the Charger. The Chargers an aggressive kite, the P2s much more forgiving so if you do get it wrong, you won't get punished. We also tried the 6m old & new back to back. I was really surprised at how even more stable the P2 was. Ive always considered the orginal 6m to be one of the most forgiving buggy engines out there; it's my 'when I'm injured & cant kite, sneaky kite' & what i put people on who've been buggying for a while but had their confidence knocked (aside from being an insane fun high gusty wind speed engine). I was worried any increase in turning speed would ruin it, but its fab & doesn't feel too fast at all. There's a newer proto being tested now, but having flown early protos they felt exactly how you'd improve the old phantoms but never knew it.

So, uh, yeah..... Now I just want to fly one more.... So, yeah..... Um.... Whens pass the phantom happening??

Looks like my phirst phantom 2 will hafta be the ever elusive 6m!

thanks for the read!

Is the P2 using the VP3 from the Charger?

The way she describes it , it sounds like a Charger / Synergy mix as much as a Charger Phantom?

Jeesh...the Syn has too many options on it now for me...too confusing for what little time I've had with it so far.

I'm more used to the simple, firm, bar-squeezing pressure of the old Phanny!

I'm the same way Lad but would like the ability to mess with it and find the cause/effect of making the adjustments and make it fly the best for my conditions. I think these PIIs are going to be my go to kite especially in gusty higher wind conditions.