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[*] posted on 15-2-2012 at 08:43 PM
X19........ Update 3 4/15/2012


Low wind fun ...........it's coming ..............

update 1

Its here ......
A bit used.... may need new depower line ....
First session was unsuccessful ... Wind forecast was showing 8-12mph all day and right after I set up the X19 wind start blowing hard ...... Hope to get some play time next week ....
Short footage with how that day started ....





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Update 2 4/1/2012

Update !!!!

Finally ..... my first proper session with X19 ....
After arriving at beach I realize that my Big Mama did not come with me .... lol .... 13m Zulu look too weak for current conditions .... and my friend Jaro pack up his 14m and start setting up S3 19 .....
After few minutes of thinking I set up X19 ....... Launched full depower ( you don't need to pre inflate X19 ) and step into cold water ........
First water start and my eyes got very big !!!! ..... power, power, power ........ Its a train with no brakes ......
That was just unbelievable ..... Thru whole session I have it fully depowered and wind was gusting up to 16mph ...... Offshore wind make me nerves but from start to the end I have no problem staying upwind and riding side by side with S3....
I use door 150, he's was 160 , I am 196lbs, he is 225, I was fully depowered , he was half way .......
This kite is a monster ..... and I can confirm that it has less de-power on a bar then FS and top end is better on FS...... and when kites is turning its still generate great amount of power witch make my transitions almost always airborne ....... I need to find proper technique to ride that monster .......
At the end of session my friend take X19 for a test drive ..... He's hones opinion was that he can't pick a winner ...... because characteristics are so different ...... As first ..... he say same thing ...... Its a train ..... with limitless power ...... same observation about turning and transition technique , In he's opinion X19 turns slower , he also say that he was able do jumps and tricks with one hand on a bar when with S3 its harder to do ..... We have some gusty conditions that day and what he did was.... park the kite at 10:30 and let go bar ..... he was able to keep going with no input to the kite ...... solid study power when S3 is more mushy ..... He is a paraglider and say that X19 is lost that ...... big paraglider ...... At the end there was no winner ..... and we still need to make low end test....
I just want to say ...... Its awesome when you can go and kite when others need to stay home ...... and that was session to remember ..... first time off-shore, first time with X19, first time with that much power that make me edge so hard that I almost lay on water surface ...... and ..... my first proper jump !!!!!........ I am happy !!! very happy x19 owner ......



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Update 3 4/15/2012

Update !!!!

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Another trip to Sandy Hook ....
This time I was planning to teach my brother basics of kiteboarding with Gin Zulu ,,,,,, Forecast was showing 11mph ..... that make it very safe to start introduction ,,,,
When we arrive at beach .... wind just died .... there was no way to launch LIE ..... I decide to try low end on X19 .....
I have few good runs .... trying to learn how to deal with conditions like this ..... Funny that I could go upwind one way with no problems when having hard time staying on board going back .... as you will see on video ..... I drop kite few times in water when wind was almost zero ..... but when I feel breeze on my face I could relaunch it easy ...... and then ....... when in middle of the bay ...... wind die ..... kite collapse and bowtie ...... That was my first time when I have too pack up on water and swim to the shore ....... in Drysuit ,,,,,, crazy ..... I am not riding in those conditions anymore .......
Anyhow ...... when I got home I look at wind alert and see what wind speeds I was riding in ..... below footage that my brother film with his camera was recorded around 5pm according to camera ... when looking at wind alert data that comes from one of wind meters located 200 feet away that was me riding in 5-6mph with 150 door ......





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[*] posted on 15-2-2012 at 09:02 PM


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[*] posted on 15-2-2012 at 09:38 PM


You getting one? Be good to get a review :) in English :D



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[*] posted on 15-2-2012 at 10:57 PM


That is awsome! I can ride in 8-10 knots with a fish surfboard. I can't even imagine what I might be able to ride with this!

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[*] posted on 15-2-2012 at 11:14 PM


i asked about this when i was recently kite-shopping... i heard they are brand new and not expanding into the US market for a while...



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[*] posted on 15-2-2012 at 11:28 PM


Looks like I am the first lucky owner in US ,,,,,, lol..... If that package ever arrive at my doorsteps ......
X19 + Airush Sector v2 60 ...... imagine possibilities ......

Kamikuza ....... my english is not as good as that one on film ..... sorry....


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[*] posted on 16-2-2012 at 01:09 AM


Heh... no audio at work - only saw the subs :)



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[*] posted on 16-2-2012 at 08:03 AM


How does the cost compare to the speed 3?

Looks like it turns a lot faster than the s3 19m



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[*] posted on 16-2-2012 at 08:10 AM


Oh man looks nice! When are we going to sandy hook to test that beast!?



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[*] posted on 16-2-2012 at 05:12 PM


Drewculous... I think is $2950 for new one .......
bar is universal ..... all Spleene kite sizes use same bar ... ..

Martin ..... It will take a month for kite to arrive ..... grrrrrrr...... can't wait .....



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[*] posted on 16-2-2012 at 06:15 PM


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Drewculous... I think is $2950 for new one .......
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Who can afford these things ?????



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[*] posted on 16-2-2012 at 06:56 PM


Watching it next to the 21m Speed and all I could think is 'What kind of devil magic is powering this thing?!'



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[*] posted on 16-2-2012 at 08:37 PM


lol, I like the perspective that guy walking across the grass gives...looks like a little kid...then you realize, nope, those kites are just that big.
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[*] posted on 17-2-2012 at 07:28 AM


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Who can afford these things ?????


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[*] posted on 17-2-2012 at 08:51 PM


.......... I got used one for good price ..... not ready to pay $3000 for kite .....



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[*] posted on 18-2-2012 at 02:42 AM


call ted at flysurferusa.com. he sells both x19 and speeds. my purple 21 delux was a bunch less than 3 grand.



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[*] posted on 5-3-2012 at 10:43 PM


update 1 in original post !!!



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[*] posted on 6-3-2012 at 04:03 AM


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call ted at flysurferusa.com. he sells both x19 and speeds. my purple 21 delux was a bunch less than 3 grand.


How much was your 21m from Ted?

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[*] posted on 6-3-2012 at 08:50 PM


found this on YT ,,,,,

4-5 knots water relaunch of X19 .....

He also have many videos on his channel with low wind riding ....





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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 07:04 AM


kober, it is a super hot sexy board. when you get it wired, it WILL help you define FAST. and everything else you ride will seem easy. more wind will help. keeping pressure in the center of the board to start will help. but a pop start will do a feet in, just have to hit it hard with deep stroke after you pop to keep moving. keep at it!



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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 07:15 AM


Leading edge down and the first thing he does is grab and yank the center lines? Is he TRYING to fill his kite with water? He should have grabbed the brake lines and pulled on these instead. He would have been back in the air much sooner.

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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 05:21 PM


Yeah that's what I thought too Joedy... but maybe he was trying to prove a point? He DID seem to fly the kite straight into the water :lol:



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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 09:57 PM


.....prove what ??? I miss that ..... Why front lines ????? Really don't want to drop that kite on deep water with low wind ......

This weekend looks like is very windy ...... I let you know when I have next go and results ....



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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 11:53 PM


Prove how easy it is to relaunch when you jam it into the water and pump it full of water? :lol:



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[*] posted on 8-3-2012 at 04:26 AM


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.....prove what ??? I miss that ..... Why front lines ????? Really don't want to drop that kite on deep water with low wind ......


Kober,

I apologize if my sarcasm was missed.

If you fly Flysurfers (and this X-19, which is essentially a copy...more or less), you'll quickly learn that when the kite is leading edge down on the water, you never want to pull the flying lines. If you do this, you will force water into the air valves and will very likely end up with a swim into shore.

When the kite is in this position, you should immediately pull on the break lines evenly and deeply. This will fly the kite upwards (in "reverse", so to speak) and will allow you to rotate the kite by letting go of just one of the break lines once the kite is in the air several feet.

If the kite is already sitting on the trailing edge while on the water (of if you happen to get lucky enough in a crash to land trailing edge down ;-) ) you can then pull on the flying lines to take off of the water. There is no danger of getting water in the valves when they are not near the water when in this position, so pulling the front lines isn't an issue then.

Flysurfer has some good videos demonstrating this narrative on YouTube. Although in hindsight, it's almost a rite of passage to fill up your Flysurfer with water at least once! Once you mistakenly perform this ritual, you'll do your best never to repeat it.

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Update !!!!

Finally ..... my first proper session with X19 ....
After arriving at beach I realize that my Big Mama did not come with me .... lol .... 13m Zulu look too weak for current conditions .... and my friend Jaro pack up his 14m and start setting up S3 19 .....
After few minutes of thinking I set up X19 ....... Launched full depower ( you don't need to pre inflate X19 ) and step into cold water ........
First water start and my eyes got very big !!!! ..... power, power, power ........ Its a train with no brakes ......
That was just unbelievable ..... Thru whole session I have it fully depowered and wind was gusting up to 16mph ...... Offshore wind make me nerves but from start to the end I have no problem staying upwind and riding side by side with S3....
I use door 150, he's was 160 , I am 196lbs, he is 225, I was fully depowered , he was half way .......
This kite is a monster ..... and I can confirm that it has less de-power on a bar then FS and top end is better on FS...... and when kites is turning its still generate great amount of power witch make my transitions almost always airborne ....... I need to find proper technique to ride that monster .......
At the end of session my friend take X19 for a test drive ..... He's hones opinion was that he can't pick a winner ...... because characteristics are so different ...... As first ..... he say same thing ...... Its a train ..... with limitless power ...... same observation about turning and transition technique , In he's opinion X19 turns slower , he also say that he was able do jumps and tricks with one hand on a bar when with S3 its harder to do ..... We have some gusty conditions that day and what he did was.... park the kite at 10:30 and let go bar ..... he was able to keep going with no input to the kite ...... solid study power when S3 is more mushy ..... He is a paraglider and say that X19 is lost that ...... big paraglider ...... At the end there was no winner ..... and we still need to make low end test....
I just want to say ...... Its awesome when you can go and kite when others need to stay home ...... and that was session to remember ..... first time off-shore, first time with X19, first time with that much power that make me edge so hard that I almost lay on water surface ...... and ..... my first proper jump !!!!!........ I am happy !!! very happy x19 owner ......



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2021 Eleveight XS .........14
Gin Zulu II / III .........5...7
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Gin Yeti ..........4.5
Gin Tonkawa ..........3.1...4.1...5.4...6.8...8.7...11.5...15.4
Liquid Force ELITE .... 6m
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Flysurfer Sonic2 .....11....15m

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[*] posted on 1-4-2012 at 10:04 AM


Wow...sounds like a great time...glad to hear you enjoyed your X19...gotta say though....if you're not kiting in an enclosed body of water, be very careful of offshore winds!



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[*] posted on 1-4-2012 at 10:09 AM


its a bay ..... worst can happen is a 2 hour walk ...... and lost board in channel



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[*] posted on 1-4-2012 at 04:24 PM


nice



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[*] posted on 1-4-2012 at 06:06 PM


Nice stoke :cool:



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