Landsegler Manufaktur

Wexler and I are really excited to have the opportunity to ride with Landsegler Manufaktur wheels from Germany. These wheels are amazingly strong and light. Their strength was readily apparent to anyone watching Stephan and Dirix Mano riding hard on Thursday at NABX in the strong winds. Sliding sideways on a surface more grippy than pavement and even on 2 wheels in a race buggy. Having these wheels will allow us to travel at speed with a tire/wheel system designed for the task.

The wheels are so lightweight, there shouldn't be any weight drawback with the low rolling mass. I'll also be relieved about tire wear. Wexler and I have worn out 6 tires between us since moving here and the motorcycle style tires should prove much more durable for the conditions here.

Thanks again to Landsegler for the opportunity to get to ride with their fine product.

Oooohhh.... Those are sexy !!! Did you actually get to ride on them at NABX ?

I sat in Stephan's buggy and noticed how light and quick to roll it was. He is another size larger than me so I had gaps between me and the siderails so I didn't ask to take it out. These wheels just seem featherlight. This is a new motivation to see what speeds are available out there even for us mortals. :bouncy:

Congratulations Bob, all good things come to he who waits....I expect PBs to rise now then

Pops congratulations to you as well! I feel humbled by this opportunity we've been given and also by the talent it places me alongside. I certainly can't blame any lack of performance on any of my equipment or riding location. I'm very anxious to learn the ways of disc wheels on the playa.

I used Stephans wheels/tires on my MG before I sent them off to you to give to Stephan. They are nice on the beach also, as long as it was hard hard hard pack. If it wasn't you had better have some speed up or you won't go. They rode very well, like being on a rail. The only thing I didn't like was that it raised the CG of the bug. Tip over was much easier than with the barrow style.
Are you going to be able to get tires here locally or will you have to send for them?
I know Stephan went through 3 sets while he was here this year,(3 sets last year). With all the riding I did with them and all that I know, I will stick with the smooth Carlisle when I want to get serious and the cheep barrows when I'm not.
How much changing will you have to do to the the bugs to make them work? Forks, down tube, fender,?
You will like the ride of them, they smooth out the lake bed real nice.

Good to hear Jeff. I'm going to add fork extender plates to my buggy as well as the longer downtube. With those adjustments and the adjustability of the rear axle height, I expect to be able to put my seat and COG right where they are with barrows. The current fender on my buggy was originally used by Ozzy with disc wheels so that should stay the same.

For beach riding, they have a wider wheel that should help with getting over soft spots better. That wheel looks to be 4-5" wide as opposed to the narrow wheel for lakebed riding. Popeye will be running these wider beach wheels.

I'm hoping since I ride less aggressively than Stephan that I might get a boost in tire mileage since there is so much more rubber around the larger diameter wheel as well as rubber compounds designed for high mileage on pavement. Did you notice the wheel diameter and tire size on Stephan's wheels?

I don't remember the sizes but I did at one time look into getting the tires here and they are motorcycle tires that cost at the local bike shop, 189.99 per tire, the tread was a bit different. The same ones that were on the bug were 0ver 200.00 plus shipping and they came from Germany. At 1000.00 per set for wheels was a bit more than I would have spent for the little bit I would gain.
But being a team rider, I'm sure Stephan got a better deal.
One thing that I did notice is that you might want to put on a camber adjustment to even out the wear on the tires. They wear on one side more than the other, you could always rotate the wheels and tires to get a bit more out of the tread.
On the camber you only need about 2 to 3 degrees depending on the amount of speed and slide.

Come to think about it when I shipped them to you the boxes were 24x24, so I am guessing the wheels would be 18" to 20" diameter.

I have a feeling I heard the rims alone were 17" a while back, certainly much smaller than the 19" I have already

I've heard from Landsegler that they are 16" rims and the tire size is 2.75 width with about a 22" overall diameter.

What kind of pricing are these wheels? Would be nice to get a set.

One of the owners mentioned in a facebook discussion on a photo that the price would be ~$1400 for a set of 3. Their site says pricing is soon to come so there could be changes or confirmation.

Congratulations you three with the new sponsorship... proud of you guys. Wouldn't mind a set myself for the future.

Well after several months of getting parts ordered and made to modify our buggies and then returning from a 3 week trip out of town, I now have the buggies converted to run the Landsegler disc wheels.

I'm very pleased with how they look on the buggies and both buggies were able to adjust to put the seats right down to a couple inches off the ground like they were before. Popeye made me a new fork and downtube so the Hero buggy is still OEM PTW. That put the front of the buggy right back where it was before. I rotated the rear axle so the tabs were underneath the axle tube placing the rear of the buggy within an inch of original with barrows.

The Apexx was easy to modify. I ordered the larger downtube and fork extender plates which sorted the front perfectly. The Apexx has a built in adjuster to fine tune the rear attachment point of the side rails to the axle.


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Thanks Bobby, the Hero is lookin Good.

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Originally posted by bigkid Thanks Bobby, the Hero is lookin Good.

I hoped it would meet with your satisfaction Jeff!

Now that you guys have all these new cool looking wheels...Don't you want to get rid of the old, nasty, ugly, I don't use these anymore aluminum wheels that would fit my flexifoil bug?:D

As a matter of fact, I would sell one set. They have a rather new set of smoothies mounted up.

those buggies look too clean:o

Very nice

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Originally posted by RonH those buggies look too clean:o Very nice

They got a bath for pictures! :smug:

Bobby do those old ugly rims have Bigfoot tires on them? I might be interested in the tires!!

Not much sense in running expensive thin rubber bigfoots on the playa. They wouldn't last a day of hard riding. Both my sets of Ally wheels have Carlisle smoothies mounted. 16".

GOOD point.

I feel faster just looking at those buggies!

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Originally posted by BeamerBob Both my sets of Ally wheels have Carlisle smoothies mounted. 16".

Bob, where did you find 16" carlisle smoothies? I Have only seen the straight ribbed in 16 inch.

Sorry for the hi-jack.

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Originally posted by Cheddarhead Quote: Originally posted by BeamerBob Both my sets of Ally wheels have Carlisle smoothies mounted. 16". Bob, where did you find 16" carlisle smoothies? I Have only seen the straight ribbed in 16 inch. Sorry for the hi-jack.

AWOC tires The smoothies are what most use on the lakebeds.

Just announced by Landsegler Manufaktur. Due to volume purchase of manufacturing materials, wheel packages have now been reduced significantly. Any wheel and tire combo is now € 795. At today's conversion, that comes out to just under $1000 plus shipping which is about $75 to the US. This might bring them more in budget for someone looking for that extra edge these lightweight wheels can provide.

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Originally posted by BeamerBob Just announced by Landsegler Manufaktur. Due to volume purchase of manufacturing materials, wheel packages have now been reduced significantly. Any wheel and tire combo is now € 795. At today's conversion, that comes out to just under $1000 plus shipping which is about $75 to the US. This might bring them more in budget for someone looking for that extra edge these lightweight wheels can provide.

How is that better than before? I was told $1000.00 with shipping.:puzzled:

Until today, their pricing has been almost $1500. As I checked their website to see if the old pricing was still there, I see that prices to US customers are now only about $850 since the European VAT tax doesn't apply to us. At that price, I'm not sure it can be justified searching for motorcycle wheels (then tires) that are quite a bit heavier.