For sale Phantom 18M kite only with bag. $240 + shipping from 95618. Super stable kite. Two repairs with tear aid tape.

Wow I sold one of these and would consider buying this one just to have for such a great price. My toy budget is contributing to the national trade deficit for the next few months however. Good luck on the sale AD. Shouldn't last too long at that price.

Almost worth getting into trouble with the wife at that price......

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The Phantom is on the far left. Big kite. Gentle giant.

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Sorry if I end up hijacking this post (at least it will keep it up high on the list), but I have a question about the Phantoms. You mention above that this kite is big, a gentle giant. I just got my own Phantom 15m and the thing that shocked me was how gentle the kite felt. I've never been happier connected to a big kite in my life.

As far as I know this is the highest aspect arc ever made (by a good bit), and I've always thought high aspect meant high performance and in turn, a less forgiving kite. Does this equation just not hold wit arcs? Why is this kite so friendly and well behaved?

Mike,

Have to agree with you on the comfort of the Phannys.

Actually, the earlier F-Arcs had a slightly higher AR - and those things are anything but "gentle" (just see hardwaterkiters posts on them).

Both are unbridled, relatively soft, and "give" with gusts. So it all must come down to aero-design subtleties.

And now back to our regularly scheduled programming...
The 18m Phanny is GREAT - esp. at THAT price!!!!

I think lad is spot on in the "unbridled" comment.

The unbridled system in arcs does not restrict the canopy shape thus allowing it to change depending on wind conditions.
Also affecting how it turns/behaves since it has no other connection points to the canopy.(Making it the gentle giant it is)

BUMP for a great kite!

not explicitly stated and hate to assume .... are spars included?

Yes 3-piece carbon spars included. The bungee is not connected so I have been taping the joints.

Bigbear...you should buy this one.....then you can keep your crispy one crispy.....buy it!!!(jedi hand wave @ Bigbear)

That would be well as the next left picture to my sig. :D


Let me check with Flyfish if he is coming to Portugal and is willing to bring it with him.
After the last adventure with Portuguese Customs, that is the only way to buy from you US folks,

Either way, PM sent

My go to kite that I used to twist up like a noodle. Very reliable and stable kite, stellar seller as well.

Phantom is a 6.5 AR. F-Arc 1200 was also 6.5. F-Arc 1800 is 7.0 AR.

That said the 1200 F-arc is a lot more agressive than a 12m Phantom.

Could I fly on a slingshot ranger bar and lines? No experience with arcs just ozones and my ranger.... I fly in some pretty low winds in Illinois so this might work well for me.... Thanks.

Hells yeah! In fact it would be awesome with a Ranger bar and a stopper. Especially if it's the longer Ranger bar but the short bar would work too.

You may have to make some adjustments to the pigtails but maybe not. You won't know until you try it.

That bar has wicked throw and the Phantom 1 is a park and ride dream so she'll really benefit from being able to sheet in the power you want and lock it in with the stopper.

What size Ranger do you have? If it's the 12m and you didn't get it from Backcountry.com at the end of thier blowout sale it likely has the long bar.


The key with getting an Arc off the ground is preinflation. Especially with a High Ar Arc like the Phantom 1.

AD- I will send u a u2u. I have a 12m ranger with the big bar so I think I will give it a go.... I am getting way too many Kites.....

$old. Than you for all the comments.

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Originally posted by ejmichel I am getting way too many Kites.....

Ha, no such thing.

Ej do you own a trailer to haul all your gear in yet? If not your far from to many kites!!:wee: My wife baught me a trailer so I would have a back seat and truck bed again!!

I had to go out and buy a shed to store all my gear. It got to the point I couldn't find another closet ceiling or bed to stuff things .

I thought I was done at 20 kites but picked up an indoor Rev' and am Jonesing at some of the deals lately.

Without a doubt the 18m Phanny is moving into #1 . Both for rotation and enjoyment. Perfect for our typical 5 - 10 kt winds !

Thanks everyone for enabling my addiction. I was too late on this one but now that I know I can use my ranger bar I will be on the look out for a big arc.

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Originally posted by ejmichel Thanks everyone for enabling my addiction. I was too late on this one but now that I know I can use my ranger bar I will be on the look out for a big arc.

G00f ... did you scoop this fellow:wee:

Nope. Goof bought my 10M pulse and now somebody else has it...I think.

Hey anybody got a 15M Speed 3? I may let the SA2 19M go next.

Nope not that one.........had that sweet 10m Pulse and sold it to feed my arc addiction.....now having seller's remorse......but the new owner of the 10m told me I can come down to visit it any time I want.......