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[*] posted on 9-6-2012 at 11:59 AM
Questions about boards and trucks


I have been thinking about upgrading the trucks on my board (MBS Elements wood board) from skate trucks to channel trucks but im not sure if it will make anything better. I know channel trucks have the ability to be adjusted better than skate trucks do.
I think my board has a 25 degree lip.

I like wide and short radius turns and i am learning to do jumps.

What are skate trucks good for?
what are channel trucks good for?
How does the angle of the board lip affect skate trucks and channel trucks for 15, 25, and 35 degree board lips?



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[*] posted on 9-6-2012 at 12:39 PM


Skate Trucks:
  • Lighter
  • Simpler
  • Less Expensive
  • Lower Center of Gravity (usually)

Channel Trucks
  • More adjustability
  • Generally more robust
  • More ground clearance (usually)

Channel trucks require more leverage to turn which is provided by decks with more tip angle. With channel trucks, more tip angle results in tighter turning radius.

Channel trucks are generally happier with tips angels of 25°+. Skate trucks are general happier on decks with tips angles of 20°-. Skate trucks can be mounted on decks (if they are drilled for them) with the sharper tip angles by placing a rubber wedge to compensate for the tip angle. Ground Industries did this with the AK 103 and Prodigy 90 boards which were drilled for both skate and Bionic trucks.

Hope that helps.

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[*] posted on 9-6-2012 at 03:59 PM


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Originally posted by indigo_wolf
Skate Trucks:
  • Lighter
  • Simpler
  • Less Expensive
  • Lower Center of Gravity (usually)

Channel Trucks
  • More adjustability
  • Generally more robust
  • More ground clearance (usually)

Channel trucks require more leverage to turn which is provided by decks with more tip angle. With channel trucks, more tip angle results in tighter turning radius.

Channel trucks are generally happier with tips angels of 25°+. Skate trucks are general happier on decks with tips angles of 20°-. Skate trucks can be mounted on decks (if they are drilled for them) with the sharper tip angles by placing a rubber wedge to compensate for the tip angle. Ground Industries did this with the AK 103 and Prodigy 90 boards which were drilled for both skate and Bionic trucks.

Hope that helps.

ATB,
Sam


To continue off Sam, because of this, freestylers often like skate trucks: less weight to spin etc. Cruisers and speedsters like the channel trucks for their stability.




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[*] posted on 9-6-2012 at 04:13 PM


Big boys need channel trucks



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[*] posted on 10-6-2012 at 11:00 AM


I am thinking of getting MBS ATS Ti trucks



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[*] posted on 10-6-2012 at 01:51 PM


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I am thinking of getting MBS ATS Ti trucks


Some things to keep in mind....
  • Chances are very good that only the axle studs are titanium.

  • Depending on what trucks you are running now, it's possible (unless you are getting new hubs) that you will have to switch out all the wheel bearings to ones that have a 9.5mm ID to match the diameter of the new axles.

  • Keep the truck mounting bolts snug and secured with Locktite Blue or nylocks nuts. Skate mounting plates have a fairly narrow shoulder between the mounting holes and the edge of the plate. The mounting plate is generally made of a cast or sintered metal that's fairly soft. If the bolts get loose they will chew through the shoulder in very quick order.

    According to Matt, the nature of this type of metal is what prompted GI to switch from metal to resin hanger cages between the Gen I and Gen II Torsion Bionic trucks.

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[*] posted on 11-6-2012 at 12:06 PM


Indigo, your depth of knowledge is inspiring and appreciated.



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