Getting bloody sick of the 6 second ads they force you sit through - #@%$#!ing spastic Japanese #@%$#! for me cos of my location :ticking: the pop-ups
were bad enough...
Even starting to watch an embedded video, then clicking to watch full screen - it starts to play then it stops and you get 6 seconds of some retarded
bimbo screaming at me about some #@%$#!ing make-up or some nonsense crap...
I never would have seen live concerts film and audio of Jimi Hendrix and other rock entertainment...almost like I was there-before some were removed,
anyway... (perhaps I could pay for it elsewhere..But I'm not going to spend the $)
I'm sure Hendrix family and any title owners of any film/audio material HATE Youtube for taking $ away from them in possible sales
and the repeated work in requesting to youtube it be removed for infringement rights as they find it posted .
Bull#@%$#! Mike - they've had the pop-up ads for ages and ads on the page... now they've been offered more bucks to assault our intelligence with
actual video ads. #@%$#! 'em for being greedy. And so stupid to push Japanese #@%$#! down my throat simply cos I'm in this location.
Chrome and the blocking block in have solved that problem.
I had so much trouble with their stupid copyright protection cr@9 just for using music in the background of my vids i try to post that I stopped using
them, and now I'm in love with vimeo.
The search feature on vimeo isn't as good but they aren't so up tight about copyright stuff. I might still search for something on youtube, but I
don't post there anymore,... it's a pain.
soliver- I too have had difficulty with soundtracks on videos, but remember, that's the copyright owner, not YouTube. If a video is blocked by
YouTube, or the audio is removed, that is because the owner of that specific material has requested that to happen if any of their content shows up.
Most of the time they will just note the copyright and place a link to buy the song under your video, but it depends on the copyright holder.
Personally, I appreciate this because YouTube has a sort of built in protection for me from the most #@%$#!ly of copyright holders. Most people don't
seem to mind you using their audio if not for profit as long as they can try to sell the track, but if a copyright holder that is going to get that
upset about it I'd rather have to choose another song than end up with a problem if they ever find my vid on Vimeo
We understand all that is not mathematics through the world, but we understand the world through mathematics
Originally posted by Kamikuza
... go #@%$#! yourself!
Getting bloody sick of the 6 second ads they force you sit through - #@%$#!ing spastic Japanese #@%$#! for me cos of my location :ticking: the pop-ups
were bad enough...
Even starting to watch an embedded video, then clicking to watch full screen - it starts to play then it stops and you get 6 seconds of some retarded
bimbo screaming at me about some #@%$#!ing make-up or some nonsense crap...
Really? Truly?
And how about those d@mn TV stations with all their commercials...
?!?!?!?!
Everything on the Internet should be free.... waaaaaaahhhhh :sniff:
Google/YouTube has an extrapolated server population of over 900,000 servers.... 45,000 servers in just one location. Perhaps if you offered to foot
the bill for their electricity, maintenance, and cooling, they would consider removing all ads from your computer.
Before you unilaterally vilify Google/Youtube and start looking in the cupboards, for that....
Youtube blocks some WMG content. Other WMG content is allowed. Did you ever stop to ask why? For the WMG that is allowed, Youtube pays a
blanket licensing fee to WMG on your behalf. Prior to the days of Youtube/WMG blocking, that covered a whole lot of content. Then WMG said
"Hey!!! Here's a list of artists that were are going to need premium (read $$$$) licensing fees for." Youtube looked at the list and said.....
We're not going to pay that. Tell you what though, since we don't want to deal with the courts and your namby-pamby lawyers , if someone posts content by any of those artists on OUR servers, we'll block it. OK? Happy now....
I don't see any pop-ups, but perhaps that's a Google/Japan thing.
Don't want to see ads in Japanese? Load up proxy software that makes Google's ads think your are spending the Summer with Auntie Em in Kansas. And
your little dog too.
While's there are ads that force you to sit through 15 seconds <*gasp*>.... remember when we thought the current generation was the one addicted
to instant gratification. Plenty of content allows you to skip the ad after 4-5 seconds. Oh no.... another mouse click to see the content I
wanted.... I am going to sue Google/Youtube for my RSI (repeated stress injuries) bills.
I am not trying to canonize Google/Youtube.... I expect they do a lot of stuff that doesn't meet my approval, but I blame the USPS on losing the
letter where Google/YouTube asks me to bless all their business practices....b@astards!!!
I promise, once my plans for global world domination are complete, I will confer with you to make sure that the world is run right.
I know.... let's blame those d@mn greedy artists!!! Well, the fact of the matter is that a lot of really great artists don't earn boatloads of
money.
Some still have mortgages and caring for multiple kids. Some only get records made through Kickstarter .
When Kate Klim's car (and her only way to get to gigs) got totalled, she put a bunch of songs on the web and said "Pay me what you think, they're
worth."
A lot of people that post music to Youtube to have embarrassingly high fidelity and expensive audio gear to generate CD/HD quality sound. There are
plenty of freely availalbe stream rippers available to capture any audio posted to YouTube in MP3 and other formats.... at that point YouTube becomes
a distribution point for pirated music.
Vimeo is aware of copyright issues:
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While we cannot opine specifically on the situation you are referring to, adding a third party’s copyrighted content to a video generally (but not
always) constitutes copyright infringement under applicable laws.
Under relevant U.S. laws, should a copyright owner come across their copyrighted content on one of our sites, they can submit a takedown notification
requesting that we remove the content. This same area of law affords the operator of the site (THEM) some level of protection from claims of
copyright infringement, when dealing with user-generated-
content. The same protection does not apply to the actual poster (YOU) of the content.
Again, we cannot provide any legal advice on this subject, so if you are genuinely concerned, we suggest you contact an attorney.
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When someone yanks their chain hard enough for video-takedown more prevalent on Vimeo is just a matter of time. Right now.... I expect the ROI on penalities and settlements is outweighed by profit.... that may change over time. It's
the same as manufacturing companies paying the fines for toxic waste dumping, rather than abstaining.
Seriously.... on the list of things that bug me... this (Youtube) is probably fairly low. It probably bothers me more that:
Most current cars feel bloated and make you feel like you are driving with oven mitts on. Or that they load it up with crap (TPMS, most
notably) that are made so cheaply that they break/fail/corrode long before their 5 year battery is expended and then I am on the hook for replacing it
because it is considered a federally mandated piece of equipment without which you can't pass your vehicle inspection. Really? Because the
government thought I am incapable of doing periodic tire pressure checks on my own... the old fashioned way for the cost a $2.00 pressure gauge?
17 inch tires on a subcompact? With almost no sidewalls? So they have to upgrade the suspension to make the ride bearable and then pass the
cost onto you? And then I get to pay the premium when it's time to replace the tires?
The replacement of the spare tire with a tire repair kit in newer cars?
Extolling the advantages of full-time 4WD and then burying it in the fine print that if you don't replace the tires in sets of 4, you void the
warranty? Gimme a break.
And the 15 second wait and pop-up in the language of the country where you are located is what torques you?
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
And..... it's not so much youTube to blame, but we who post videos. I get to choose whether I have the pop up ads or the full screen ads on my videos
'cos I get paid for them. (providing someone actually clicks on the ad). I don't think (not 100% sure) that there are any ads on my videos that have
someone else's music on them - as I'm not the copyright holder in that instance, I cannot claim revenue sharing or make money from them. You tube is
extremely strict about this and I have even failed, in some instances, to convince them that my songs are, in fact, mine! Which is bloody frustrating
to say the least.
With the time and effort I put into making videos, it's nice to be given the opportunity by youTube/Google Ad sense, to make a little money in return.
Probably take two years before I have enough to buy a kite, but hey, better than a kick in the teeth!
So if you watch one of my vids and there's a 15 second full screen ad at the start, you have my permission to yell "Holgate, you $%%#$# ##$$ ##$$$"
In most cases, the ads are directly to related to whatever you've been searching for. If do a search on Camper Vans, Google remembers it and all my
ads become 'Britz Camper Van' ads!! Ditto LapTop batteries. And, if you're unfortunate enough to have a look at RedTube, don't be surprised when all
the ads on your screen become 'dating' ads. Where's the 'embarrassed' emotion gone......
Don't watch regular TV anywhere - ads are one reason, utter crap content is another. We have cable TV so I only suffer ads during the end/beginning
breaks (usually). And that's so much of a turn-off that I'm thinking about running an proxy-server so I can get netflix here.
Free? They offer a free service and support it with ads - fine, no problem with the pop-ups or banner ads, such is life - I don't have to look at
them. But when you can't shut down a video ad... 15 seconds x 4 is one minutes of
my life I'll never get back cos I'm waiting for their ad to finish. Multiply by every time I want to watch something... wankers.
Didn't google buy YouTube for 2 billion dollars? How can free service providers afford to do that?!?!
Copyright I understand (but don't agree with in this case) and we all know what WMG, UMG etc get up to and how they're not protecting the artists,
they're protecting their own profit margins.
And I shouldn't HAVE to run a proxy-server!
Oh you live in America don't you - you must be fat, stupid, white, speak English only, moan about Mexicans and your immigrant president, and have lots
of guns. So here's a retarded bimbo with big tits jiggling at you to buy another enormous SUV that gets 2 miles to the gallon... on credit, of course.
Originally posted by John Holgate
So if you watch one of my vids and there's a 15 second full screen ad at the start, you have my permission to yell "Holgate, you $%%#$# ##$$ ##$$$"
Can't.... still like the video and included song (Take The Pain) on this one:
I'd still watch it even with an ad.
Quote:
Originally posted by John Holgate
Where's the 'embarrassed' emotion gone......
Still here.... :embarrased:
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
Originally posted by Kamikuza
iWolf = sorry, that's a FAIL.
Free? They offer a free service and support it with ads - fine, no problem with the pop-ups or banner ads, such is life - I don't have to look at
them. But when you can't shut down a video ad... 15 seconds x 4 is one minutes of
my life I'll never get back cos I'm waiting for their ad to finish. Multiply by every time I want to watch something... wankers.
Errr....um... what? If you agree that they offer a free service that is supported by ads, then why would they make it easy for your to nuke those
ads? That would be kind of a weak business model.
While I mourn your lost minutes.... no one's got a gun to your head. What did you do before YouTube? Zoinks!!! Cut the tether, man.
A service bought for 2 billion dollars from from 3 former Paypal employees. Hmmmm.... somehow "free service" seems kind of anachronistic in that
light.
Hotmail (also ad driven, unless you pay for a subscription) is "free" but I don't think anyone would ever mistake Microsoft as a "free service
provider."
Quote:
Originally posted by Kamikuza
Didn't google buy YouTube for 2 billion dollars? How can free service providers afford to do that?!?!
Because the public face is the one that most people pay attention to. The corporate side is the money maker. While there is a free version of
Sketchup, there is also a commercial version that sells for $500 a seat.
While the Google Search engine is free, they also lease the technology to corporation to index corporate documents for Intranet
searching. The cost of the license is based on the number of documents that are being indexed. Take a wild guess at how many documents some of
Google's corporate customers have on all their servers and then start tallying up the dollar signs...they add up fast. Figure that Google only
offers up the price range for the two lower tiers. The two upper tiers are listed as "Call for pricing" (translation: call so we can confirm that you will
not sustain severe head injuries when you faint from sticker shock).
Quote:
Originally posted by Kamikuza
Copyright I understand (but don't agree with in this case) and we all know what WMG, UMG etc get up to and how they're not protecting the artists,
they're protecting their own profit margins.
Arguing about what is legal and what is right is always an exercise akin to raging at angels. Not necessarily an unworthy endeavor, but stock up on
throat lozenges.
Quote:
Originally posted by Kamikuza
And I shouldn't HAVE to run a proxy-server!
Again.... no gun to your head.... feel free to continue listening to Japanese ads.
Quote:
Originally posted by Kamikuza
Oh you live in America don't you - you must be fat, stupid, white, speak English only, moan about Mexicans and your immigrant president, and have lots
of guns. So here's a retarded bimbo with big tits jiggling at you to buy another enormous SUV that gets 2 miles to the gallon... on credit, of course.
Fat? Could lose a few pounds.
Stupid? Opinions vary.
White? Well, certainly some body parts yes...
Speak English only? et un peu petit Francais, aussi.
Moan about Mexicans? err umm.... not that I am aware of.
Moan about immigrant president: why limit it to presidents (current or otherwise), the political system as a whole is greatly in need of an
overhaul. Term limits on the House and Senate would be a start.... if only to remind them that they are actually public servants and not nouveau
riche royalty.
Here's a retarded bimbo with big tits jiggling? But does she have pretty eyes?
Buy another enormous SUV that gets 2 miles to the gallon? - unlikely... not an SUV fan.... see previous comment regarding driving/oven mitts.
On credit? - Errr.... nope.
Said it before... ads are the single largest waste of corporate money. I can't remember the last thing that I have bought based on an ad. "Targeted
marketing" is an oxymoron. I don't fit into a whole lot of market niches. Not really sure what that comment has to do with anything.
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
Does Hotmail, MSN or heck even Yahoo! insist you sit through a 15 second ad every time you want to read an email? No. It's unnecessary and annoying...
unnecessarily annoying even! :D
Yeah, not going to argue about copyright...
Ah, so you're not An American then. Oddly enough, I'm not Japanese and neither are a whole bunch of other people living in this section of the globe.
Why should the internet insist that I must go to Japanese pages when I request the .com? for example. Let me do my own thinking, please!
Ads may be a waste of money but they keep doing it - right in your face, whether you want it or not. If you can't empathize with my gripe, go moan
about your new car some more :evil:
Originally posted by soliver
@ i-wolf,... hey man didn't mean to cheese anybody off, sorry,... I understand the copyright issues, I mostly just think it's annoying.
No problem.... not cheesed. I actually preferred the Internet when it didn't have quite as many shackles.... just watching that incrementally
changed.
ATB,
Sam
"I never had any friends later on like the ones I had when I was 12 - Jesus, does anyone?" - The Body by Stephen King
Oh you live in America don't you - you must be fat, stupid, white, speak English only, moan about Mexicans and your immigrant president, and have lots
of guns. So here's a retarded bimbo with big tits jiggling at you to buy another enormous SUV that gets 2 miles to the gallon... on credit, of course.
Im not normally one to bash america, sumply because its america, but aside from the mexican population here where I live, that phrase pretty much
nailed it to discredit you tho, the only part if that that sticks is the white
part, and the guns (home made cannons count as guns right? (and I b***h about
everyone.... Not just mexicans and the president BWAHAHAHA) im in shape... finally, smart by most standards, speak spanish, wifes chest is all
natural, and I have a bought and paid for truck (to haul cannons/kites/etc)
Dont be hatin' brah, we all love ya..... That quote just made me giggle
And to hell with ads... Altho kinda necessary... Lol $.02 and all
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Not hatin' Drew, just making the point that simply cos you live within the borders of X, doesn't make you a Xican. The reverse stereotyping is
incredibly frustrating...
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?!?!?!?! 
, if someone posts content by any of those artists on OUR servers, we'll block it. OK? Happy now.... 
15 seconds x 4 is one minutes of
my life I'll never get back cos I'm waiting for their ad to finish. Multiply by every time I want to watch something... wankers.
