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[*] posted on 18-7-2006 at 08:56 PM
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I was wondering at what wind speeds do you pack up?

a Samurai 3m and the Blade 4.9m ? ?

I live on the coast with very strong winds. thank U all
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[*] posted on 18-7-2006 at 09:44 PM


If your new to flying, I'd be putting the 4.9 away by about 12mph, and the 3m by 20. They can both be flown in much more, but you have to be very careful and they will have the potential to hurt you bad in higher winds.

With the 3m, you're apt to be dragged off face first sliding on your stomach in higher winds, grinning ear to ear. You're likely to suffer from grass burns and scrapes etc. The problem with the blade 4.9m is it's very lifty, so instead of dragging you off, its likely to loft you up and drop you, so few scrapes, more sprained ankles and such. In higher winds it's not uncommon for a 4.9m to loft someone 10ft then drop them earning it the nickname "The Widowmaker"



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[*] posted on 19-7-2006 at 03:25 PM


Thank YOU
Thats what I needed to know.
I live on the coast, so winds are normal at 20+
I have the 3m Samurai, and I do get yanked and dragged when I catch one of those gusts..

So my Im guessing buying the Blade 4.9m is not good for my wind/gust ?? Or maybe more of an early morning kite before the winds pick up?? I flown My samurai around 50x and Im weighing around 230lbs..Still, a 4.9m catching one of those 50 mph gust could get ugly Im guessing??.
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[*] posted on 19-7-2006 at 09:31 PM


I've flown a 5m F-one and a 5.5m buster in 25-30mph winds, and I have 2 yrs of agressive kiting experience, I wouldn't go any more kite in those winds even now. Both were interesting and the buggy was sliding sideways the whole time. Both those kites have lift, not huge ammounts and I did get lofted a couple times with them. The thought of taking a B 4.9 out in those contidtions scares me.

I guess the real question is what are your long term plans for kiting, because if your into buggying, I'd suggest a sammy 5m, you already have the 3m and like it, it'll be more of the same. If you want to landboard, the blades are better, ATB's seem to like liftier kites. What you want to do with the kite really dictates what kite to get, I love the Century's because they're fast in a buggy, not so hot for anything other than speed though.

Blades are great kites, the smaller ones pull great, nice in higher winds, the 6.6m B3 or the 6.5m b4 are both solid kites, they give massive lift, but tend to float you down nicely, the problem with the 4.9m is that it'll lob you up quite a ways in high winds, but then it's too small to really float you back to earth.

Best advice is to get your hands on a couple kites to demo, failing that let us know what your after and maybe we can help a little more.



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[*] posted on 20-7-2006 at 06:50 AM


Thank YOU for YOUR help first off..
I do have an ATB. Ground Industries Patrol. Real new to it though..
My Setup is good for the rest of this Summer, but I'd get my second kite in time for next spring :O) ..The plan would be roughly to get the second kite for lower wind days for my GI Patrol.. Then 3rd step, to get me a buggy..But thats Down the road..
With all YOUR help,sounds like the Blade(bigger then the 4.9m?) would be best,but early mornings when winds are low( 8-15 mph) then if I still want to fly in 15+ mph I should use the Sammy3m..

If I get a buggy,then a Sammy2 6m would be what I need for its pull?

Again,Thank YOU for YOUR time and Help.
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[*] posted on 20-7-2006 at 09:25 PM


You can buggy no problem with a blade, only problem is they're lifty kites, so when you get moving at speed you have to be careful what you do with the kite, if you send it high at speed in hopes of scrubbing off speed you'll be sadly mistaken. Kites like the Bullet go more dormant at the top of the window so they're more forgiving when traveling at speed. This is a good traight for atb's as it makes it easy to jump, good for buggy jumping as well, but if your not belted in and ready for liftoff in a bug, you'll OBE in a second.

You'll find a lot of experienced Buggiers fly blades, they perform well, they just need a little respect and attention.

But to answer the question, you'll find quite a few less accidents with the 6m range of blades or any lifty kite than you will with a 5m, they're large enough to float you down quite a bit nicer than the 5m's



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[*] posted on 22-7-2006 at 04:29 PM


What about the different Blade Series?.Meaning I,II,III, and IV ?
Since Im looking, are there One's I should stay away from?I see the B3 and B4 are good, but what about the earlier ones?
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[*] posted on 22-7-2006 at 11:11 PM


I'm not a blade expert by any means, I believe the B1's were very crude in their power delivery, very much on, off, type of thing, the BII's were calmer, no where near as bad as the BI's, but not as strong of a lift or pull, by the BIII, they got a pretty good ballance of control, stability and raw power, all around a pretty decent kite, the BIV offers it all, you can adjust it for raw lift/pull or tune it down to nice and stable with less lift, more sideways pull.

Someone who's flown them more can probably get you a more accurate description,



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