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question.gif posted on 3-8-2006 at 01:15 PM
buggy control


hello pep
ive had my buggy for over a week now but not been out with it no dam wind, all the video i watch and pic is see ya all use duel handels my kites is on a bar will this be ok???

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[*] posted on 4-8-2006 at 10:31 AM


Ray... Brother Buggier...
The handles you observe are controlling fixed-bridle foils.
Foils can generate more power if they are flown more aggresively.
Handles, providing more control, allow this.

The fact you have a bar on your kite is only the fiirst little bit of info to help guide you correctly.

What kite?
Please try to be as specific as you can.

How much kite experience do you already have?
How much with this specific kite?

What's you flying/buggy field like?
What are your usual (not average) winds?

I know how antzy you must feel.
Bad weather never lasts forever.


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[*] posted on 4-8-2006 at 11:18 AM


right here goes its a 3meter duel line kite made by gun sail been kiting for about 2months so quite new to it all the buggy came up cheap so got that too ive read the thead on a link you lot give some 1 esle about "how to do it" think i under stand that, most of the time i will be bugging in a huge mowed feild, 1 other think what safty devise should i have as at mo i have zero........i mean kite wize i have body safty equipment

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[*] posted on 4-8-2006 at 12:51 PM


ive got to get a Harness too but am i right in thinking they use differant 1s to normal kitting? also wwhat or how do i contect it to my bar and were do i buy them

thanks yet again lol:wink2:
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[*] posted on 5-8-2006 at 12:19 AM
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I would suggest that you change your kite to a quad line.
I'm not saying that you can't ride with a dual line, when I started riding we ONLY had dual line kites. (yeah, long time ago) It'll be alot easier to ride and be in CONTROL of your
buggy, yourself and the kite at the same time. Being that
you're still learning what to do and not to do. And another thing, don't be in a rush to learn everything at once, you'll get there, along with a few bumps and brusies, hopefully with no broken bones:D The main thing is that you have fun and be safe about it. Ian



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[*] posted on 5-8-2006 at 01:14 AM


mmmm i agree with you, when i got my kite a kite sufer i no said start on a duel then quad but i think he thought i never even new what a kite was lol so will have to save for a quad kite.
And as for bumps already learning that you should never under est winds power.
So what type of kite killer can i use on my duel line kite???
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[*] posted on 5-8-2006 at 08:08 AM


I hope Im understanding you post correctly about wanting to get a harness, This is probably NOT such a great idea if you have been flying only 2 line kites, and are pretty new to the sport, You dont want to hook yourself to the harness until your sure you can controll that kite, REALL BAD THINGS CAN HAPPEN......
The only thing I can say is, If your going to get a harness anyway, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE SOME SORT OF QUICK RELEASE SYSTEM, save yourself the pain........
I dont see to many people using bars to buggy, handles will give you more response, in my opinion.
a harness is great but make sure your ready before you use one, you have to learn all over again how to fly with a harness because the pull comes from a different area, your waist, not arms, you'll learn once you use a harness, youll fell awkward using just your hands to fly.......

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[*] posted on 5-8-2006 at 08:49 AM


Talking about kite killers. When I started out over 5 years ago all I had was a 2 line kite. Now I have moved on to 4 line kites and never looked back. If you are going to use kite killers be carefull and only use one. That way when you let go of the handle the kite will not be able to power up on you. As soon as you are able to I say get a 4 line kite. Having brakes on the kite makes all the difference.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2006 at 11:26 AM


Hey Ray,
Instead of all the things you should do or buy...
Here's what you can accomplish with what you have:

Don't worry about the bar/handles.
Fly what you've got and learn to make the most out of it.

Bars will limit your control, but you'll adapt.

Start with the kite overhead and the buggy pointed about 45 degrees off straight down-wind.
Sit in the buggy with your feet on the pegs.
Move the kite from overhead out towards the side - NOT downwind.
(probably best to swoop to the side the buggy is pointed at)

As the kite starts to pull, you'll start to roll.
Don't let the kite go past the direction of your front wheel.

Swoop the kite vertically, out near the edge, to maintain speed.

As the kite moves across the sky, keep the relationship between the kite and your front wheel so the kite never goes back more than 90 degrees to the side or passes in front of the wheel (except when running down-wind)

Turning is a matter of bringing the kite overhead, turning the buggy quickly, then dropping the kite down in front of your new direction of travel.

This is very basic.
Only to get you started.

Dual (note the spelling) line foils like being kept in motion.
Bridle (note the spelling) adjustments aren't made on foils.

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[*] posted on 5-8-2006 at 11:40 AM


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Originally posted by coreykite
Hey Ray,
Instead of all the things you should do or buy...
Here's what you can accomplish with what you have:

Don't worry about the bar/handles.
Fly what you've got and learn to make the most out of it.



sound like a plan thanks for ya help
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[*] posted on 6-8-2006 at 12:35 AM


If you're going to put a safety on one side of a dual line ktie, be careful, make sure that when you let go of the bar there's not enough tension on the loose line to keep the kite powered up and in a looping condition.

I know that 2 line LEI's will flag out, not sure what the 2 line foil will do, best bet in light wind, and in an open feild with room downwind, let go of the bar while holding one of the lines where the flying lines attach to the leader comming off the bar, see what the kite will do, Be ready to let go of the whole kite though if it decides to start looping.



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