Most of you were there, but for the few who were not, we had an open discussion on Friday night about making the Wildwood Buggy Bash a NAPKA Sanctioned event. With the need to now have permits, and insurance, and our growing event, it sounded like the best way to go. We talked about how it would be better to go to the Municipalities as an Organization to make it easier to get the needed permits. Not to mention how it was going to be great to add a greater presence for NAPKA as a whole. We also chatted about what was necessary to make it happen.

On Saturday night, before the BBQ, I announced that we were going to take a vote on whether or not to make it a NAPKA sanctioned event. I must say I am proud to announce that It was Unanimous with those in attendance for making it happen!

The Canadian Group is going to set up a new district! Claude Gravel has volunteered to be the representative!

So make sure you visit www.napka.org and get signed up, sign your waiver, and get your picture in before Spring! Get your number plates ready and lets make NAPKA proud with a huge East Coast Presence!
Things can only get better from here!

Brian, you would make a great addition to NAPKA. With all your event ideas, you could help all organizers add different things to their events! :bigok:

..to wipe of Todd And rich's bar-b-que sauce off your face.

Also this NAPKINS..

This may be the biggest thing to happen to this club since we dropped the " R " !

The club is set up to support events and please the requirements of different districts. The bigger our membership and the better the events the better the chances of convincing establishment that we can do this safely.

Growing Chapters into Quebec just adds to our strength. Those folks have been organized and established for a long time now !

You have done an amazing job ! Not just of this event but for NAPKA as well. I hope everybody gets behind Rich and assures he can see through his plans .

Rich For President !

Thanks for the kind words Ken! I really hope that NAPKA continues to grow more and more each year.

Having WBB go NAPKA is a great thing! Getting this group over here on the east coast moving in the NAPKA direction is going to help all of us in the long run. You may not need NAPKA right now where you ride, but when you do, NAPKA will be there for you.

NAPKA US 212 ..... I think .... or 121 ??? ...
anyhow ....
.... registered

Way to Kober. Lead by example. Get it done now so we dont get back logged on waiver, photos and pilot cards.

Again make sure you fill out your waivers, take an I.D. type photo and send back to the proper email address.

You can choose your own number as long as it has not being used already.

I bought a book on procrastination and will be reading it in the next few days...after I finish that in the next few weeks, I will start the process of joining and hopefully be all set up in the next few months... How does one get a procrastinator to read a self help book on procrastination?? hehe

All jokes aside...I'm really exciting about joining and making our sport better represented at WBB... Also a lot easier for you Rich to get things done/organized for us. Thanks again for all the time put into WW this year. I couldn't have had a better time. Great Wind, Great memories and Great friends to hang with...that's what it is all about Baby!

Not that you need more work, but getting involved in fund raisers like the American Cancer Society also make us as a club/event have some more clout within the local community. Lets talk soon about this ... 3K or 5k buggy race? by the mile ? could be lots of fun...



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I was very pleased to see the support for making the WBB a NAPKA event. I see this as win for all the parties involved.

The bash gets reasonably priced insurance witch is now required to obtain the mandatory event permit. It gets to remain an event without a registration fee.

NAPKA get a boost in membership and in its clout.

The attendees get the benefits and all the good things that go with being a NAPKA member. I also feel that they get off cheaper than if they had to pay a registration fee that went to cover single event insurance -especially if they go twice a year.

The organizers get some liability insurance. They have,in my opinion, unfairly taken on unreasonable risk for far to long. They also avoid the administration work associated with managing and collecting a registration fee.

All in all I see this as the best fit for the bash moving forward and glad that others agreed. I am looking forward to the growth of NAPKA membership on the east coast and the new NAPKA events that I am sure will be popping up.

Will one be required to be a NAPKA member to attend from now on?

Yes Chris, but as a NAPKA you can bring a guest and have them sign a waiver form.

Just to clarify. The people coming to static fly, ride on the back of a tandem , or just come for the fun do not have to be members, just the pilots.

Thanks for the explanations, Rich.

Does this also mean organized NAPKA racing is inevitably coming to WWBB?

Maybe not to the bash itself, but a possibility. There has been talk of another date for a NAPKA race of some sort.

For the most part, there has been some scuttlebutt of having relays, or time trials around an obstacle course, during the WBB, but nothing has happened yet. Usually when the wind picks up, people just want to run!

I would love to see a "race" of some sort of competition come into WW. I think it could pull a good number of people.

For the most part, WBB will just continue to be a great group that gets together to have fun buggying, boarding and having great cookouts!

what if I don't want to register as a NAPKA member, come to WBB and ride, what are the sanctions?

I would like to think that being Wildwood is now requireing permits and insurance to be able to hold the event, no one would jeapordize the event as well as the other attendees, by not joing the majority vote and joining NAPKA and riding insured with the rest of us. The cost of having a registration fee for each event to cover the insurance and permit fees ( permit fee was paid out of my pocket for the group) would be more expensive than joining NAPKA.

Having to be permitted and insured was not a choice, it was a demand. I hope that one person or a few people are not willing to jeapordize a sweet riding venue like wildwood over $40 NAPKA membership

I doubt there is anything that says recreational pilots are not allowed on the beach just because NAPKA has an event .

NAPKA members will be obvious by the numbers they must display + how they all get along .

I expect you could ride on the beach those days and even talk to folks but I wouldn't expect you would be invited to set up your base with the NAPKA people or to join them for the fine food and Familia Feel ?

If that's your idea of a good time ?

Thanks for confirming my theory that somebody would come up with this negetive approach !:moon:

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Originally posted by PKS-Kiter what if I don't want to register as a NAPKA member, come to WBB and ride, what are the sanctions?

Nice first post... welcome to the group

Thank you for the answers.. BTW this was just a question, not my approach or intend...

We need date !!!!! Time to mark spring event in my calendar .....

I have a date, will post soon!

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Originally posted by PKS-Kiter what if I don't want to register as a NAPKA member, come to WBB and ride, what are the sanctions?

The simple answer is that sanctions would be moral suasion. I believe that the non registered NAPKA rider would receive grief and rejection from the bash attendants. I don't see how this would be a enjoyable experience and feel that any rider that does not want to register with NAPKA would have a better time riding at Wildwood when the bash is not in town.

If you don't mind me asking, what the reason(s) are for not wanting to register as a NAPKA member?

Welcome PKS

Sorry, I woke up in a bad mood today. What I said is true though. Including the fact I was sure this question would come up.

I'm with BD . I'm now wondering why this would be your 1st question on PKF. Are you planning on going to the event and have some concerns about NAPKA as a method of securing insurance ? :puzzled:
Have you been to an event ?
Are you able to suggest another option ?

Is it me or are people not joining because of money or that they are now somewhat being required to....

Let me ask all the PKF members a question....:eureka:

Would you be willing to pay 20.00 dollars to ride the beach for 3, 4, or even 5 days for this amount in the spring... To be able to hang with friends, meet new people, and fly kites all day long...I know I would, especially knowing that my food, beer and entertainment costs more...

Not to mention the amount of money dumped on kites, equipment, cameras, clothes etc... this doesn't seem to prevent you from doing the sport you love so..... why is this an issue.

If it cost me 20.00 to ride at the spring bash and 20.00 to ride at the fall bash then my NAPKA membership is paid for in full for the year. It also makes the person/persons organizing the event not have work as hard to organize the event so we can all have fun.

Just Join! :D

Very well put Bruce.

I didn't suggest making this a NAPKA event to create a click or to keep people from coming. It was just a simple solution to our insurance problem. NAPKA is already set up and ready to provide the proper paperwork for an event. The fact that NAPKA is already established, it gives us here on the East Coast a better presence in the organization therfore affording us insurance when we need it, wheter it is for a fun event like WBB, a future race situation at any of the beaches up and down the East Coast, or at home on your local field where you may need insurnace in the future. If you are a NAPKA member and you approach someone that has a piece of property you would love to try and buggy on, and they require some sort of insurance, you can make it work to your advantage in that situation as well. Approaching the townships with an organized group insurance with experience in the event status, it just makes it a little easier.

Again, not trying to keep people from coming at all. Just trying to keep us prepared for future years to come. I love the WBB and enjoy every moment that I spend getting things ready for the event, the anticipation leading up to the event, the drive over to the event, and arriving for the event. I cannot tell you the joy I get when I stand up on the balcony of my room and look out and see all those kites in the air and hear the "whoohoo's" from two blocks away. This is my passion! It will continue to be one heck of a good time for many years to come because of the people that show up and share many hours together doing what they love and talking about what they love!

For all those reason, it's worth every penny I spend on a NAPKA membership, every hour I spend working on the event. And all the hours I spend watching and helping others on the beach than riding and flying myself!

PKS, if you have not been to the bash, please come and be my guest at the next event. Just sign a waiver and you will be my guest, then after the event, we can talk about wheter it is worth siging up for NAPKA.

Rich Miller
WBB event organizer

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Originally posted by BEC Just Join! :D

Bruce, I think you're absolutely right. The cost of membership is a fraction of the cost of a single kite, and it includes the insurance that is being required for WBB. In addition, there is the perspective that we are concerned enough to take the time to ensure that we are accountable. In my mind, it's a no-brainer. (And if it makes Rich's life easier, that's all the more reason!)
I'm in! - KC67
Give me a couple of days and I'll have Josh in too
See you in the Spring :wee:

Na, he's gonna be my guest......... and I already had NAPKA logo bandaid's made up. I'm shooting for my NAPKA number #62....... being the year I was born, Just don't tell anyone how old I really am.......keep it a secret , OK ! So whats this about this over 40 club Cheezy's been throwing around?..... will I need a special waiver and depends for under my harness? :duh: ...With a nickname like "Cr@sh", I'm kinda accident prone. :embarrased: Dude, we need a logo and a shirt for wildwood now, any ideas ? Cheezy Sand Scrappers or Rich's Sand Platoon maybe. :moon:...ya gotta love the video of Cheezy reverse launching. :tumble: Don't know why Wildwood Mud Ducks comes to mind
(Bruce, I think you're absolutely right. The cost of membership is a fraction of the cost of a single kite) .....especially when you win a kite in a free raffle like I did...thank you all, my daughter love's it.

I apologize for the mass confusion I started here with my question.

I should have said: "What if someone doesn't want to register........." as I said in my second post it wasn't my intend but just a question..
I believe having an organ regulating such an event is a great thing, don't get me wrong, I was just wondering about people showing up without knowing about the event and wanting to ride, but I guess most would somehow know about it any way...

You have avoided telling us if you have attended or want to attend.

You avoided answering if you have solutions or just see problems .

The walk up member has been considered. The plan is to have everything in place to help a newcomer join right there.

We will have printed waivers and explanation of club rules right there to read and then sign. We will take their picture and payment, input them into the system using the interweb. We are working on the best method of setting these new members up with number plates to go .

We are working on making this as painless as possible for everybody involved.

NABX has to do similar. Everybody who registers has to get a package that include plates and a parking pass. I get to pay $75 a year for that and feel it's worth it. Since I am already an NAPKA member I look at me entry to WBB as being FREE !!!!!! Cups half full !!!!

As Rich mentions. I think this is the chance for folks out East to take ownership of something that has already shown it's a respectable solution to all of our problems obtaining locations. Going this route helps with the Wildwood issue and has the added benefit of working for me and the kiting community as a whole the whole year through.

Power in numbers !