this post has been edited due to the kite was found and has resumed its journey.

I hope it is just an oversight. This is one awesome part of PKF that would really suffer if the kites do not turn up. This whole forum is built on trust. Hope this gets resolved quickly for you Jeff as well as the rest if the PKF family.

Screwyfits made some handles years ago and passed them around. They went MIA after awhile. I did get to see them and fly with them, but someone went to lengths to disappear with them. It was not a prominent member of PKF IIRC.

I was holding off until I talked to Jeff about this this weekend.

I had plans of passing the Aurora. At the moment that is off.

I will not name names but know of one other pass that ended bad in a slightly different way.

People out on their own are the ones who can benifit most from a pass but it seems un-policed temptation can get even a Canadian :embarrased:

We may have to rethink who can qualify for a pass in the future if it is to survive.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this turns out ok

Big drag, I hope whoever has it speaks up and does the right thing

I'm in Gatineau, Quebec near Ottawa ,Ontario so if that last person you know of is near me, let me know and i can try to contact them from here.. i'm even driving to Montreal tomorrow.. i have no clue where that person is but willing to help out if near by..

Steff

I too have run into an issue with a "pass" that went sour. Lost a kite and the person that got it...well, you know who you are. Because of this I will no longer do any pass kite deals. It is a shame that such a wonderful opportunity gets ruined by a couple bad apples.

Maybe it's time to have a little legal release thing, anyone who wants to be part of a pass must sign it, scan it, and send a copy to the owner of the kite? i.e.: "I will pass this kite via certified/insured mail, no more than 3 weeks after receiving it, or I acknowledge I am purchasing this kite for full retail price as well as 15% restocking fee."

I know I had an amazing day on the pass the charger, and I was very sad to see that pass the kite got all #$%^&*^%^& as well.

Wow- this really is poor for this forum. Thought: 2nd person on list sends money to 3rd person on the list as insurance- 2nd person sends kite to 3rd person on list AFTER 3rd person sends money to 4th person on list.

Once kite is received by 3rd person the 2nd person gets their money back from 3rd person- repeat pattern till list is exhausted.

I couldn't have made this any more complicated if I tried!

If I'm #3 and #4 is the guy that's going to keep the kite, I don't want him to have my money. I say each guy on the "pass" runs the sale on a credit card before they receive the kite. When they ship the kite out to the next guy (who has also run his CC), the shipper gets full credit. And then you say, its not worth the effort to be nice.

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Originally posted by beachrights2nd person on list sends money to 3rd person on the list as insurance- 2nd person sends kite to 3rd person on list AFTER 3rd person sends money to 4th person on list. Once kite is received by 3rd person the 2nd person gets their money back from 3rd person- repeat pattern till list is exhausted

Sorry I couldn't help but smile at this one - it has all the makings of a pyramid scheme.

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Originally posted by markite Quote: Originally posted by beachrights2nd person on list sends money to 3rd person on the list as insurance- 2nd person sends kite to 3rd person on list AFTER 3rd person sends money to 4th person on list. Once kite is received by 3rd person the 2nd person gets their money back from 3rd person- repeat pattern till list is exhausted Sorry I couldn't help but smile at this one - it has all the makings of a pyramid scheme.

Come on! I'll even throw in a set of Floor mats and a set of Wipers! LOL!

Told you it was confusing- not sure if it has "holes" but I think some sort of insurance like Bob and I are suggesting is the way to go.

Anyone want some prime land in South America?

What we need is MafiaKites Inc.....you don't pass the goods and Bubba comes to pay you a little visit at your house... This would guarantee it's in the mail for the next person...

Post his name and address Jeff. We can probably get that kite back. Who is with me?

Post it Jeff!

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Originally posted by BEC What we need is MafiaKites Inc.....you don't pass the goods and Bubba comes to pay you a little visit at your house... This would guarantee it's in the mail for the next person...

Who said this was a capability we do not have already?????

Post the name!

I am holding out the hope that this person will man up and do the right thing. I even thought of offering to trade a couple of used demo kites to help him out. Not sure he is that hard up for a kite or 2 but what the heck.
Tried twice to call him today and got some weird message after the calls. I will try again tomorrow and see what happens.
I don't want to post his name at all, but I may if things don't pan out.

Don't trade him to get your kite back. It should just come back.

Perhaps a call to the RCMP in this persons area could encourage them to stop by his address and talk to him about sending it off ?

It is a bit of a stretch but rural RCMP have a little more time to deal with the small stuff ? It eventually becomes a crime of theft so ...

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Originally posted by Bladerunner Perhaps a call to the RCMP in this persons area could encourage them to stop by his address and talk to him about sending it off ? It is a bit of a stretch but rural RCMP have a little more time to deal with the small stuff ? It eventually becomes a crime of theft so ...

I had a vision of Dudley Do Right out chasing Snidely Whiplash.

RCMP, "they always get their man" !

I am serious about giving them a call. They may be Dudley do something ?

I played detective today and found some info and made a few calls and let Dudley Do Right know and filed a report. Even Dudley said he should man up and return it. But because there was no legal contract signed, I will have to take a bath. Must be a Canadian thing, not taking a bath.:puzzled:
Talked and talked and talked to his wife and she was way to much help.
I expect to make a statement in a few days one way or the other.
I could always post the address and we could all send him a "shame on you" letter.:evil:

Hell yeah do it !!!
I'll send one to him a letter all the way from Scotland !!!!

I'd love an address! *cracks knuckles*

Hey Jeff has this guy been on the forum lately? If so than he is in full knowledge of the situation and you should have no reservation of outing him. If he is in hiding then push a little more and see what happens. This thread has been bothering me from the start and I hope it ends in a good way very soon. It saddens me that one of our own is doing this. I hope he is just scared to admit he damaged or lost it and comes forth soon.

My 1st concern is / was that he is not well.

So Wifey says he's not dead ? YET !

I have never signed a contract for anything I've stolen and it's been years since I had a bath ! ;-)

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Talked and talked and talked to his wife and she was way to much help.

:puzzled:

Too much help? Lot of talking....no resolution or will she be the fixer?

Y'know it's very rare what you do in loaning through a forum with trust and generousity and your give aways. Don't let one bad apple ruin it if you would like to continue... but I don't know if a better security system can be implimented in 'pass the..' set ups . You know and are now living the risks( worst scenario) when you do this.

- if they're normal moral responsible people....

IF...it was lost or unrepairably damaged...that's another issue and how you deal(reparation) with it.

That aspect may have been already revealed...? I'm just curious like the others.

No good deed goes unpunished. You have to be willing to accept the possibilty of that...unfortunately.

good luck.

PS: you think CMP hate the Dudley Do-right reference of them?

In all that has happened,(and you wouldn't believe some of the stuff, you wouldn't even be able to think this stuff up)this is nothing but a small pebble on the road of life. Yuk:smug:

I will still be me and do what I do,
piss people off,
make enemies,
rock the boat,
make you think when you don't want to,
make you take a stand,
and tell you you are wrong when you are. :P
I will also give things away,
make life a bit more interesting,
encourage those that make an effort,
and hopefully add to the enjoyment of this sport and the people who make it happen. (And I am working on being more humble, which isn't doing so well)

Whether or not I get my kite back, I have been working on a few other freebies and ideas. I have also been working on a simple way to Pass the Kite with out this happening again,:eureka: or at least gives me some power to Squeeze the living daylights out of the ......, did I say that out loud? :o

Life will go on with or without me or the the guy with my kite, so lets get on with it.
The wife's motorhome needs to be loaded with my stuff for the weekend and I am ready to enjoy the weekend one-way or the other.:bigok: