Since I've heard this is an arc biased fourm I'm curious how this will turnout. Simply vote for which you prefer and post why you belive one is superior to the other. Please don't turn this into a pissing match and hav fun with it:wee:

I love my arcs! Gust munchers to the end! Plenty of power when needed!

I have not tried any Flysurfers, but can understand why people love them as well.

I'm sure we have some Flysurfer fans out there who would be generous enough to mail me their quiver for a month or so so I can make an informed decision here. ;-)

PM me, I'll send you my shipping address.

Philip

Flysurfer. I like arcs but for me the timing is off. I like how fast flysurfer fill and ease of setup. I don't really care about bridles and flysurfer makes the best bridles (tangle less). For me, I can anticipate what they will do better so they seem more stable in gusts. My 10m Venom II would luff and power and overfly then powerup in the window and launch me. All because I couldn't get the timing right I guess. On the water however, I saw auto zenith work very well with the same venom and loved how easy it was. If I had started on arcs and flying them was more intuitive I might like them better than flysurfer.

Love them both for various reasons. Gotta go flysurfer because I feel more confident flying solo, and I am able to get them in the air in next to nothing for wind without a leaf blower.

Both. :Ange09:

Uh, is that an option??:embarrased:

BOTH!!!!
Thank God Mr. Peter Lynn and Armin Harich are both so brilliant! Those two guys have bettered my life. (along with the Wright brothers!)
With all due respect, The question of Arcs vs. Flysurfer is like asking: Porsche vs. Jeep. Both perform perfectly when you use them as they are intended!

BOTH,

I think it's a closed cell thing. I have been flying closed cell so long now that I'm finding the Eskimo to be the odd kite in the shed.

What is the difference? Can you give examples of each kind? A picture or two would help. :dunno:

Definitely both!

Each has it's advantages. For me the best features of each:
Flysurfers for low end, wind rage, hang-time, easy setup. (Water and Buggy)
Arcs for gusty winds, auto zenith, Park&Ride. (Buggy and ATV)

Still haven't tried Flysurfers on the ATV or Arcs on the water.

I never really thought of PKF as leaning towards the Arc end of the closed cell spectrum btu I suppose it could be. I obviously like Arc and at the risk of seeming biased I've always prefered Arcs for speed, gust handling and depower and lack of bridles. The lack of bridles is especially nice on crusty snow or ice with the little snagging flakes.

Flysurfers are awesome tho, for ease of use and low wind ability.

Both are awesome because you can use them anywhere water, dirt, snow.

Here in Northern New Hampshire/Western Maine it's mostly Arcs being ridden followed by Flysurfers and then open cells, mostly HQ and Slingshot Rangers believe it or not.

I too am glad that both are around, my old v13 was great in the gusty days and the upper end felt very comfy, really enjoy my psycho4 for jumping and solo launch/landing but it can be a challenge in the gusty stuff.