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[*] posted on 29-11-2012 at 09:53 AM
Massachusetts kite help


Looking for someone in massachusetts willing to meet up next week to help me out with a depower kite. Set up make sure lines are attached correctly and show me how to use the kite.

Picked up a hq montana off eBay. My first depower so not 100% sure the lines were set up right. Managed to get it in the air for a little and already love the feeling of a depower.
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[*] posted on 29-11-2012 at 10:00 AM


Where in MA are you. I do believe the Nahant crew is planning a gathering at Nahant on the 9th of Dec. If your near them or not they are a great crew to hook up with. Very knowledgeable and nice too. No matter what don't look at Brian F's feet. My hair started to go grey the day I did!!
But seriously if you can hook up with these guys they can help you out. If your in the Berkshires I will be up there near Jimney Peak on Sat. - Wed. Not that I can be much help, but I'm fun to be around too!!



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[*] posted on 29-11-2012 at 02:25 PM


I'm one of the Nahant crew but won't be there on the 9th. I fly depowers. Where are you located and how much kiting experience do you have? Interested in boarding, buggy or snow kiting? What size and version (1-7) did you score?



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[*] posted on 29-11-2012 at 03:00 PM


Interested in snowboarding. It's a 7m montana 1. Located in worcester got my first kite about 6 months ago a Beamer tsr 3.6m I've flown that from 1mph to prob 25 got basic skills down and somewhat understanding the wind window. Just the switch to depower and a kite twice as big set up is a bit confusing
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[*] posted on 29-11-2012 at 05:36 PM


Worcester is not far from Nahant. Less than 1/2 hr away. Look up the guys on here and send them a U2U. They are doublespeed360 (pauly) Brian Fast, BuggyDanny (Dan)



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[*] posted on 29-11-2012 at 07:55 PM


There is some good kite skiing out near Worcester but I can't think of the name of the lakes offhand. Are you willing to come to Nahant? The 7m is going to have about as much power as your 3.6 so don't let the size intimidate you.



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[*] posted on 30-11-2012 at 07:45 AM


Sad to say I can't make it out on the ninth. I have drill this weekend right in Quincy if you know anyone in that area that could help out make sure lines are set up correctly?
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[*] posted on 30-11-2012 at 10:05 AM


The manual should be online at the HQ website if no one can meet you. The outer lines on the bar go to the lower / rear / brake lines on the kite and the middle / power lines go to the top lines on the kite. Generally top and bottom lines on the kite side are somewhat evident if you spread the bridle out and hold the pigtails for the line attachments and shake the mixer out. Don't let the mixer intimidate or confuse you. Its really not any harder than attaching the lines on your beamer and flying the kite is pretty simple if you already know what you are doing. Just go out in low wind and give it a go. If the wind is up, I'm sure there will be guys at Nahant 2-3 hours around either side of low tide. I know I'm trying to get out if the weather is good on Sunday.



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[*] posted on 30-11-2012 at 11:04 AM


I see that low tide is real early this weekend. You may want to post at http://masskiting.com/forum. Its mostly kite surfing but I think there are some guys from the Quincy area on that forum who may be able to help you if necessary. You could try to meet at Pope John Paul II Park. Its right off the highway.



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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 06:49 PM


got all my lines set up right and can get the kite launched but as soon as I let go of the center lines kite stalls out and drops back down to the ground. I have tried adjusting the power lines and no luck. Also when I first unrolled the kite the brake line were crossed over and attached to the opposite side?? good news got my harness in today now just need the kite problems worked out.
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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 08:24 PM


How high is the kite when you let go of the center lines? Also, does this Montana have the 3 knots on the center leader and if so which know are you on?



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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 08:26 PM


Quoboag pond near Brookfield is near you. People from masskiting.com seen to go there alot. Supposed to have great kiting in the winter. Always wanted to try it.



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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 08:40 PM


Yes has the three knots I've tried it on all of them. Also kite gets to just below apex let go and drops. Basically drops starts dropping whenever I drop the lines
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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 09:02 PM


Just a quick review. If you had your brake lines and front lines on a hook and you were pulling on them way down at the other end , are they the same length(exact would be nice 1/2" diff. tolerable). With it all rigged and your powerlines on the knot closest to the bar ,pull the centers to launch the kite all the while make sure you are pushing the bar away from you. You do not want to be pulling the bar toward you this may be stalling the kite (you will learn to pull the bar later when the kite is speeding back and forth). Go ahead and try it befor you take the lines off.



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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 09:08 PM


Sounds like the center line safety may not be engaged...? I had a similar problem with my blaze. I could launch but when I released the center lines the kite dropped. Upon inspection I found that the Tophat safety was not engaged. Once I closed it things changed immediately.



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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 04:41 AM


Were you flying the kite without a harness when this was happening? If that is the case then you are choking the kite when you let go of the center lines as the only option is to hold the bar in. Now that you have a harness you will see that you need the harness to get the most out of the kite. You can fly unhooked for a bit but you need the harness to really fly the kite.



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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 06:23 AM


I didn't even think that you might not be hooked in. Center lines on knots closest to the bar , helmet on , hook in , push bar away from you, pull on center lines to launch. If that does'nt fly, it needs PKF member assistance. Oh and do what Cheezy said , make sure the long thick line that runs thru the bar goes up wraps thru a pulley or ring and comes back toward the bar to hook into that red hat thing.



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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 10:29 AM


I did have the chicken loop hooked up to my belt. I think this choking that's being explained is whats happening as I had the bar pulled in while launching the kite. Just need some daylight time off and some wind to give it another try thanks for the help
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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 12:38 PM


Yeah if you're launching with the bar pulled in and you are attached to the chicken loop you're going to tail stall the hell out of the kite. If you are able to make her climb to near zenith my guess is that you're simply tail stalling it. Pulling the center lines in will off set this until you let go.

If you move the front lines to the knots closest to you it will off set the bad habit a littl bit but probably not enough. One thing you can try is flying her unhooked and shee if you run into the same issue. To do this simply adjust the trim strap to full depow, launch the kite using the method of yarding in the center lines and see if she goes to zenith. You may have to tug on it a couple times in the launch process if the wind is light but once you get to the zenith you should be able to fly her just with the bar and not attached to the chicken loop.

WARNING this is a leashless system so if the wind is nasty and you have to let go you will not be attached to anything and the kite will be loose. SO try it in moderate winds if you can:Ange09:



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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 01:22 PM


Hey drop me a line as I have family in the Furnacebrook parkway area (quincy) and I have a bunch of AWESOME places that I have found to work well for riding and flying in almost all conditions...

I'd be game to meet up and show you...Im in western mass kiting the last few days, REALLY gusty,...

maybe you can get out this way>??

try me at crabzebula at Gee mail dot com



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[*] posted on 7-12-2012 at 01:45 PM


Problem solved thanks for all the help got a quick fly today with real lite winds can't wait for some 15+
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