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[*] posted on 29-4-2013 at 06:19 AM
To much slack on bar lines.


So yesterday I was trying to fly my 2004 Best Nemesis 14m kite,but i was having an issue it seems the left and right steering lines were slack and the other 2 lines were taught, Is that how the lines are supposed to be, if not how do i adjust them? I'm using a Naish universal bar.



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[*] posted on 29-4-2013 at 07:31 AM


Its kind of normal for your back lines to look a little more slack that your frontlines yes but if they look really slack you may need to either shorten the backlines, lengthen the front lines - or even both. Do not do anything if your kite is flying properly. If its slow to respond to bar input and hard to relaunch then try the following:

On the Naish Bar you can shorten the coloured back lines at the bar. assuming the line attaches to the pigtail on the bar by the knot at the end then move both lines closer to the bar by one knot and see if that works. if it doesn't help then move up another knot.

If you run out of knots on your back lines and still no improvement you may have the option to shorten at the kite too (You don't on out of the factory Naish kites) - I dont know what the back line pigtails look like on the 2004 nemesis. they may have knots in them like the bar pigtails so you can shorten even further.

If you still have slack backlines (unlikely at this stage!) you can lengthen your frontlines by moving the stopper down on the depower rope which will effectively shorten the backlines even further by preventing the bar from moving to high up the strop. (be careful because you are reducing your depower by doing this)

My backlines look pretty slack most of the time too be honest (using uni con bars too) but as long as the kite is flying properly you should not worry about it





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[*] posted on 29-4-2013 at 08:06 AM


Yea i tried flying i had absolutely no control the the back lines were to slack to put in any input.



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[*] posted on 29-4-2013 at 04:21 PM


Is this the first time you've flown this specific kite on this specific bar?



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[*] posted on 30-4-2013 at 02:34 AM


Quote: Originally posted by williamstanhope  
Yea i tried flying i had absolutely no control the the back lines were to slack to put in any input.


Ok have a go at shortening them as described then. Small changes and check how it flies each time.

before you start its also worth checking the 4 lines are the same length. lines can stretch or may have been replaced by a previous owner if the bar is preowned.

the uni con bar should work fine with a nemesis. It works with a Kahoona and I don't think Best make separate bars for them. one of my kite buddies just bought an 8m nemesis though so I could try it with my Naish bar if you still have problems



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[*] posted on 30-4-2013 at 05:01 AM


This is the first time ive flown a power kite, ive flown stunt kites for about 4 years.
I adjusted the lines a little and everything is good now.



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[*] posted on 30-4-2013 at 05:49 AM


lol well a 14m high aspect LEI from 2004 is an unusual place to start!!

Be careful with it. glad you got it sorted.




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[*] posted on 30-4-2013 at 06:23 AM


Yea thanks for your help. Im probably going to get a naish park soon.



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[*] posted on 30-4-2013 at 06:27 AM


Dont need to say I told you so Will. Be careful.
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[*] posted on 30-4-2013 at 08:53 AM


I suggested that Will get a small trainer and I would help him learn. Sales person he spoke to said he didnt need a trainer just use what has in light winds. Bad advise. Winds here are to lumpy to train with that size kite.




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[*] posted on 30-4-2013 at 08:28 PM


Be wicked careful with that thing. :evil: Old kites can be #@%$#!es.



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[*] posted on 1-5-2013 at 12:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Streetrider56  
I suggested that Will get a small trainer and I would help him learn. Sales person he spoke to said he didnt need a trainer just use what has in light winds. Bad advise. Winds here are to lumpy to train with that size kite.


That sales person needs to be taken out and shot. Putting a 14m C kite in the hands of a beginner is like giving a loaded gun to a 2 year old.



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[*] posted on 1-5-2013 at 02:04 PM


this is a scary thread, reminds me of me...I bought an old C kite and was convinced to put it away and start in a proper place w/ proper equipment....I still fly and now know enough that I had no business having that kite..think about this carefully there are doors in life you don’t want to pass thru……sorry my 2c



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[*] posted on 1-5-2013 at 02:14 PM


Yea im putting up the big kite for a while until i learn how to fly properly on a trainer. I learnt my lesson i hurt my self the other day, (just about lost some fingers).



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[*] posted on 1-5-2013 at 02:15 PM


He had an unexpected loft that put a scare into him without harm. Will ordered a 2.5m to train with. :thumbup:
Actually he purchased kite only from Ebay and the sales person from a retail sold him bar and lines. And I think a harness also. Bad business either way.



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