were can you get ruck sack type bags for a peter lynn pepper is there any unversial bag you can use or is there a propper bag for the job??

I would check with your local kite retailer as mine carries a few extra stuff sacks. Short of that though, you may find it cheaper to go to a local sporting goods store or the like, and pick up a cheap back pack or stuff sack. Since my son went back to school and upgraded his back pack (to the X-Men) I am eyeing his discarded, LL Bean as its good material and perfect size.

Only thing to be careful about is if you get a zippered pack, the better ones have a liner inside the bag on the zipper side so if the zipper gets stuck, it gets stuck on the liner and not the contents (i.e. your kite).

Hardware stores and generic clothing / supplies stores are likely candidates as well as mountaineering outfitters. Pretty much anything will do - some of my most expensive kites are in the cheapest looking stuff sacks you'd ever see.

sporting good stores sell pull string bags, lightweight material, and there fairly cheap, usually in the camping isle....

it comes with a pull string bag but it pretty pants will ave to go into town and ave a look around thanks lads

Can anyone comment on the fascination many kitemakers have with backpacks instead of stuffsacks? We are to go flying and not hiking!

I would much prefer that the manufacturers would put the extra design and labor into kite features such as d-ribs and dirt-out vents and such features that are actually useful. I have several of Ted Dougherty's Pro-Foils and they all come with a nice little zippered backpack, with one clever feature being a mesh bottom that helps to lose the beach sand (so I vaccuum the car more- oh well). For probably less money I'd rather have a tubular sack with compression straps to conserve space in the kite bag and maybe a simple webbing sling.

I'm not knocking Ted- he has a good product. It's just an example of what many manufacturers seem to do and maybe he is following the pack ;-). I read a lot of reviews where comments are made about the "nifty little knapsacks".

I looked at a brand new Montana 7m from HQ. The bag is beautiful and very well made with lots of compression straps. In fact openning that package was like un-wrapping something from Tiffany's, it was done so nicely. But in addition to padded shoulder straps, it has bloomin' padded waist straps, as if it were meant for mountain hiking with a fifty pound load!

Now granted a kite meant for mountain boards might more likely have the need to access remote locations, but wouldn't you want to take all your kite gear and stuff it in a REAL backpack to get to your site?

Am I missing something here?

I have mostly stuff sacks but when I'm skiing in the winter I'd prefer the kite have a backpack (and since mine don't I normally stuff a couple in my mountaineering pack so I can fly one kite and have one or two others with me in case the winds change). Of course one could go the depower route to avoid that but...

Stuff sacks are OK but I like packs with pockets to hold a stake or telescoping ski poles, or bags for sand / snow, etc.

That being what it is though - they are secondary and can be upgraded on your own so I too would prefer the money to be spent on croc clips and dirt outs, etc.

A Quick Lesson in Marketing:

Most commercial sewing is being done in Southeast Asia.
The kites and the packs are not made at the same factory.
(For that matter, neither are the lines or handles)

The economy of scale allows companies to offer "more features", like packs instead of stuff sacks, to present a "better image" on the store shelves.
No price break for the stuff sack, but a much poorer presentation in the store.

The Science of Marketing is different from the Science of Aerodynamics.

Most of the marketplace is not made up of users, but "wanna-be's".
The volume of sales is maintained by people believing that the gear is the secret. "Buy This and You Can Do It"

As we become more knowledgable users, we begin to learn the differences between gear that "looks good" and those pieces that are truly innovative or represent high value.

Co-incidently, I recently had cause to replace a kite pack and found a 24" long, draw-string top, mesh bag at a local sporting goods store for $7.
Holds the kite and handles just fine and I can see what's in the bag at a glance.

Happiness is where you find it.

I think I read this in a book.


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i just wanted a bigger bag so i can put kite in main area handel on side and my glove lid ect not just kite