https://vimeo.com/77198501

Looks like it's got potential! Wonder what it costs...

interesting !

The video doesn't show much in the way of float ?

I think I see great low wind and buggy potential ? I wonder how it is for speed ?

I think this in a big size could be a wonderful low-wing wing, since it's so light, but In my personal opinion, this is a bit of FlySurfer expanding kite-line too much and will contract and remove a kite from their lineup, just like Ozone did. if this wing performs well, I would expect it to replace the outlaw in FS's product line.

A very interesting concept, I just will have to wait to learn about performance! Excited as always to see another land-specific kite.

I also wonder if it will be cheaper since its less material. it's like flysurfer is building on the idea of NASA wings

I have to say, I really like it. I also love that the pack turns into a harness. It is a bit gimmicky, but if you are only cruising I don't see the harm in that. I wonder if the reduction in material means it will have a slightly less "Fly$urfer" price...

HOLY CRAP! getting one these no doubt! what sizes?

Very nice, I wonder how large the window is? Single skins tend to be slower and have a smaller window from the constant curve though out the wing. That could be the reason for the rather pathetic jumps, for a flysurfer.

I also find the angled bridle attachments by the LE interesting. They could be used to slow down the air around under the wing, creating more power like the rata jet on 2e5.com. They also appear to reduce the amount of bridles.

Quote: Originally posted by Demoknight

I wonder if the reduction in material means it will have a slightly less "Fly$urfer" price...

Being a FS, somehow I kind of doubt it.

I'd like to see how it handles gusty, turbulent, inland conditions. My guess is not so well but it would be interesting to see more clips of how easy it is to correct a collapsed canopy without it balling all up.

Probably a good light wind kite. Not sure if the market really needed this but if its significantly cheaper than a speed maybe they have found a niche.

I am waiting until next year when it comes out in Deluxe material . :P

Quote: Originally posted by erratic winds

...this is a bit of FlySurfer expanding kite-line too much and will contract and remove a kite from their lineup, just like Ozone did. if this wing performs well, I would expect it to replace the outlaw in FS's product line.

I'm curious about what Ozone did. I sure hope FS doesn't use this new kite to replace the Outlaw if it ends up being more expensive than their previous land kite. I was thinking of getting an Outlaw because it was cheaper than a Frenzy and had more features.

With that in mind, I still like the concept and would like to see how this competes with the NASA-Wings. A thing this tried kite industry needs is more innovation.

A couple more screenshots from their news page. And yes, that is A LOT of bridles.

Unity is gone from the homepage, apparently...

Though there is no bottom sail, given the number of ribs and the complexity of the bridle, my guess is this kite will cost at least as much as similarly sized Pulse or Outlaw. Doubt you'll be seeing any cost savings with this one. All the ribs/attachments make it kind of ugly to look at IMO.

Looks like flysurfer really dumped some money into the old R&D department this past year. Gotta give them credit for venturing into new territory. Would really like to give this one a test ride. One thing I wonder is how the single canopy would act in flight should you unknownly tear it on something.

Quote: Originally posted by Kamikuza

Unity is gone from the homepage, apparently...

Just checked and realized that the FS Psycho4 is gone as well; replaced by the Cronix. That limits their number of water-relaunchable kitesurfing foils to just 1 (excluding the Viron trainer kite).

Why can't FS simply keep their two kites they just discontinued and expand their lineup from 5 to 7 kites?

Psycho 5 is coming. It'll be a combination of Unity and Pshyco 4. Read an interview with Armin.

There must be some sort of internal structure on the LE of that thing to hold that shape?

Quote: Originally posted by macboy

There must be some sort of internal structure on the LE of that thing to hold that shape?

Don't think so. Watch it crash in the video and you'll see it just collapses. That front leading edge is made by the wind / air pressure and the ribbing / bridle. It appears to be totally soft.

I think this looks really interesting... Can't wait to see more.... When you get one phree, tell us what you think!!!!

Totally stolen from NPW tech. The leading edge is nearly a 1:1 copy, from the designs I've investigated. Need John to pipe up here, but is this just a giant, really expensive depower NPW? Second question... If I buy one will you stop pestering me about NPWs? . Third question... Is the depower really depower? That curve and all those bridles seem like they would be pretty rigid.

€750 or €850, for the 6m, and 9m respectively. Another €90 for the harg (or barness). How much was that NASA Star again? I'm guessing the depower on these things suck (or is binary, like an NPW.)

Why not just bring back the C-Quad or buy a paraski flex if you like single skin technology. Both are cheaper and probably perform at least as well and if you don't pound them into the ground you don't break rods and you know they will hold their form.

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Need John to pipe up here, but is this just a giant, really expensive depower NPW? Second question... If I buy one will you stop pestering me about NPWs?

Expensive? - Yes. Giant NPW? - I wouldn't have thought so.

Will I stop pestering you about Nasa Stars? - not a chance!

And as for how much for the NS2's - How about 911 Euros for ALL of them including a bar and line set? (that's 1.5m 2.5m, 4m, 5.5m and 7m) Which either makes the flysurfer look really expensive or the NS2's really good value.

Joel over on Extremekites said he'd do a write up on the Peak shortly - when he does, I'll post a link.

Quote: Originally posted by Proletariat

€750 or €850, for the 6m, and 9m respectively. Another €90 for the harg (or barness). How much was that NASA Star again? I'm guessing the depower on these things suck (or is binary, like an NPW.)

For us Americans, that's $1025 for the 6 meter and $1160 for the 9 meter.

About the same price as the Outlaw on this site.

The outlaw is one kite I wish they continued to innovate such as they did with the the speed, etc.

Quote: Originally posted by macboy

There must be some sort of internal structure on the LE of that thing to hold that shape?

I wonder if they aren't using the stiff little rods that they have put in the leading edge of their newest closed cells ? Scudley's new Sky Country kite also has these on the leading edge.

^ they are.

I'm sure any single skin kite will have it's roots based on a NPW...... I'm sure I've seen something similar ;-)

Hmmm. Am I missing the obvious here but isn't the FS Peak nothing more than an Outlaw without the first layer? The "folder over" of the leading edge is suss, and does not truly reflect what a single-skin kite should look like. I bet a NASA at 1/3 of the price can pull just as much if not more, and there is already depower models out. It will be interesting to see how this hits into the market.

I think in turbulent winds it will likely behave less than a depower double skin, but better than a FB double skin...:puzzled:

The light packable feature might be desired by folks who want to mix ski descent/ touring and ski kiting but need a small package the can tuck away. With this in mind the all in one pack/harness should have a larger capacity pack(compressible to smaller size) to take a full winters days of gear. Otherwise in some case the pack is not needed ...ditch the FS pack/harness and use a bigger backpack and a substitute harness..... pack with the kite and winter gear.

Unlike most NPWs( which is the lightest most packable kite for such an adventure)... this kite- if it drops upside down /leading edge into the powder-may scoop snow in deep powder with that leading edge design and make it at times un-reverse launchable . You will have to stake it and go down to kite.

With an NPW snow slides off right side or upside down. Relaunch is easy in extremes of snow. An upside down foil will empty also (any cell flying in heavy falling snow will need to downturn and empty filling cells in the sky in such a situation.

Innovative? Overpriced? Great performer?

Definitely one of the most talked about new kites, It seems?