So who out there has experience with the Peter Lynn Crossover Bar and what kites have you tried it with? I've heard some kites respond well or OK to these crossover/turbo bars and some don't so it would be nice to know to compile a list of experiences.

Also does anyone have experience with this bar and land boarding yet?

Does it really expand the flyable wind range of the kite or is it just another way to hook in and harness the power? I realize it isn't true 5 line de-power but it would be nice to know if it does give you a little more flexibility with your fixed bridle kites.

Please take it easy on me if any of these questions seem dumb but I'm a solo flyer in my area so this is my only kiting resource shy of calling up Big Mike at Big Mike's Kites.

I have tried the ozone turbo bar with a 4 meter 2013 twister. It didn't work well at all. I would assume that the new crossover bar wouldn't be much better but maybe you can talk bigmike into giving it a try with a twister. I have a thread that we listed the kites that work and do not work with the ozone turbo bar.

The bar doesn't really expand the range as much as it gives you a mechanical advantage and one hand usability and some quick releases that you wouldn't normally have with handles and strop.

Here is the thread that I started to compile a list of kites that work with that style of bar

turbo bar

Thanks ssayre!

It's pretty new and has really only come about since Ozone said they would discontinuing their turbo bar, so you may not be able to find much info on it. I know Big Mike has done a review on it and he can probably help more than most anyone out there. Shoot him an email, He's great to deal with.

Good luck!

Two reviews so far by Big Mike

Used with the Hornet and Voltage if I remember correctly.



ATB,
Sam

I can't speak about the new crossover bar but can tell you what I found with my homebuilt ones.

Some of my kites worked well with it. My 7m Bullet loved the bar. My 4.5 Bullet would hardly fly with it? My 3m Brooza and 5m Ace liked the bar in strong winds but if wind was very low the pulleys weight etc. played on the brake lines. I even had light Ronstan pulleys. So no, I think generally you lose some bottom end with the crossover.

The crossover bar adds about 2/1 brake input as you turn the bar but you are basically flying 2 line until you turn the bar. In my version the center lines were set and you only had knots to tune the sweet spot per kite. You hooked in with a D-loop. The PL version looks better.

I wanted to like flying FB on a bar. I gave up on FB with bars one day when I was flying inland in terrible wind. I couldn't keep my 5m ace in the sky long enough to work out a ride. Out of desperation I tried it on handles. It was crazy :o like I had a completely different kite. It was still a struggle but I managed to get riding at least. Riding with a crossover bar has it's obvious advantages but it sort of oversimplifies things. If you want to get the most out of you FB stick with handles and a strop. If you want to use a bar look at depower.

Probably the best way to expand the range of your FB is changing up line length.