Found this on the Peter Lynn himself webpage. Anybody try it? Looks a bit like an NPW. I got a quote of $65US and $30 for shipping...

http://kxkite.en.alibaba.com/product/1635211848-218812111/Sk...

That looks like the "Skin" ...I've seen a few guys talk about it here... I think Flyguy0101 and Bobalooie57 both got them, not sure I remember what they thought though... here was the thread http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=27318#pid26...

That seemed like a project that had potential but never took off as far as availability of sizes or one of the major brands buying into it. I heard rumors of peter lynn kiteboarding was suppose to have something single skin in the works?

It might be worth buying for you since you can make kites. You might be able to make and modify a few?

Give it some time and I hear PL is going to drop their new single skin line called the "Uniq". It will be offered in 2,3 and 4 line models in various sizing of each.
I don't think it's really too far away either.

Thanks guys - sounds like the same kite. I think I'll get one, though figuring out how to place an order with alibabba is a bit confusing. I got the price from the kite company, but they didn't tell me how to order it.....

Maybe try clicking on "Contact Supplier" on the alibaba page. Jessica Liang is the same customer service rep that I had.

I tried that and I got an email from her with the price. Sent one back saying - ok - how do I order it? I thought Alibabba was supposed to be the greatest thing since NPW kites....:D I guess the time difference is a factor in all this.

The new UNIQ is a bit more refined than the link to the earlier kite. It's not released yet but the quad line version is sized from 1.5 - 4.5 m.

My personal opinion would be too wait for the official PL release. It will undoubtedly be more refined, as mentioned above and I would be stupified if it didn't offer better performance.

I would consider the kite on Alibaba still much more in the prototype stage.

im w/ Meat....i wouldnt spend the 95$
an Oreo kite might be cool though

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Give it some time and I hear PL is going to drop their new single skin line called the "Uniq". It will be offered in 2,3 and 4 line models in various sizing of each. I don't think it's really too far away either.

Think I saw that in an email from one of the online kite shops a few months ago,... didn't realize it was manuf. by PL... looked cool, kinda like a smaller version of the Peak.

Only up to 4.5?

As far as the 4.5 being on the small size..... I haven't seen one yet, but who knows? It could possibly be similar to the peak1 in regards to its very flat profile, giving it a rather high PA for it's size. ie more power per m². Obviously we're not looking at something that is "a 4.5m that powers like a 15m!" or anything though. Time will tell.

Trying to run down some pics.

It's more refined than the skin (the version mentioned at the top) but not like the Peak - looks to be in between the two. No word on actual release date but should be coming soon. If anyone followed the Mongolia buggy crossing last year the kites are similar looking and the guys commented on how much more power per size they had compared to the f.b. foils and far more adaptable in gusty winds.

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Only up to 4.5?

Hé hé hé, Don't think one would need much bigger than that... Windrange on them is silly, they fly in next to nothing and power up as well.

But, with enough people asking for bigger sizes they might come..

It is the "refined" skin, as far as I'm aware the plans were given to a third party to build under licence, it flies pretty close to an NPW, I have one of the skin prototypes which at the time needed some adjusting to get the most out of it. It's very much like an NPW I haven't used it much for the buggy since doing some initial testing on it, personally I thought it a bit flighty at times and went back to the NPWs for a more stability. If you want a fun kite it's worth a punt but for serious stuff wait till the next real PL branded generation of single skin.
I had a 4m skin back to back with an NPW, power was pretty much the same, however the newer style (more peak like) I reckon do pack more power and fly in lighter winds, I had a static session with my 5m in @ 3mph and it was easy to keep moving round and was generating some pull when the wind lifted a touch.

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Hé hé hé, Don't think one would need much bigger than that...

That's what she said. :D

Single skin design is my preference for my goals and conditions. Looking forward to trying one. I noticed your mood (longboard). Have you tried these with short lines and longboard.

Do we know if these are the kites that Craig Hansen was using on his Mongolia trip?

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I have one of the skin prototypes which at the time needed some adjusting to get the most out of it. It's very much like an NPW I haven't used it much for the buggy since doing some initial testing on it, personally I thought it a bit flighty at times and went back to the NPWs for a more stability..

Flyguy had immediate trouble with his.


Are these kite only?

Haven't used them with my longboard yet, we are just coming out of winter here and wet'ish streets aren't cool to ride.

The kites for the Mongolia trip were late prototypes, that's about all I can say for now.

And no, the PL single skins will all come complete with lines, handles and all.

I'm going to guess they will fly on short lines. I would like to add another design to my single skin collection. The anticipated sizes sound perfect for longboard, but unless they are miracle kites, I will most likely need the larger sizes for my wind on grass. Either way, I must have one at some point just for being single skin.

Meant to reply to this earlier, but forgot. I am a little confused as to which comments apply to which kite. Some may be talking about the "Skin" while others about the "Uniq" which may not have been released yet. Anyway, after looking at the photos again, and bablouie57's video, I don't think this kite is the "Skin." It looks like it has 5 panels, while the Skin seems to have seven, though I'm positive about either number.

5 or 7 panels there were various prototypes, having looked at the photos on the link..... erm I think it's not really being targeted at a "serious" market, it does have power and I'm surprised it's marketed showing children flying it like it's a box kite!

Flyguy had his 'Skin' for sale awhile back. Not sure if he sold it. ..but ask him .

You may need to mod it for better flying...?

Found a pic of the Uniq 2.5m and posted what very little info I could find here: Peter Lynn Uniq Very much like the Mongolia prototypes that Craig Hansen was flying. Definitely not the 'Skin'. This looks like a very promising kite.

Have I seen something like that somewhere before?

Nice picture BigE. The unique does look just like yours. Too bad they won't come in the sizes yours are.

:D at least it proves there is a lot of mileage in this type of single skin design, I think commercially the smaller sizes have a bigger market until they get everything ironed out to start making bigger sizes. Toying with making a 3m next and pushing the AR wider

BigE, have you tried flying your design just off the power lines? In other words, would they fly well as 2 line or would it be like trying to fly a traditional foil on a bar?

What I have done to mine is add a Z-bridle so yes it will fly as a two line, due to the sizes I've built I'd rather keep the 4 lines tho' for the extra control. The 12m does fly off a bar as I added de-power to it. We're just going in to spring, so now I have a tuned 3 kite quiver I'm going to try a turbo on them, can't see any problems as my NPWs worked well on the turbo bar.