I am looking to buy a depowerable, I am quite familiar with the Frenzys but wanted to know what else was out there. also what is a good size to start out with? I am proficient with my quad kites but have only used a depowerable a few times. Help me out here guys.

i'll recommend flysurfer kites. excellent lowend, overpressure valves, good safety system, parallel quality with Ozone, closed cell so water-relaunchable, great customer service, lots of help like on foilzone.com.

i've been on FS for 4 yrs now. the kites just do what they are supposed to.

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Originally posted by dagon I am looking to buy a depowerable, I am quite familiar with the Frenzys but wanted to know what else was out there. also what is a good size to start out with? I am proficient with my quad kites but have only used a depowerable a few times. Help me out here guys.

I sure like the Pulse. So much so, that I'm looking for a 7m.

EDIT: Make that a 17m Flysurfer Silver Arrow for those light wind days

Well, there is a Flexifoil Sabre2 depower kite but from my experience, I like Frenzy 07 better.

I think something around 10m (foil) is a good start for a depowerable.

What about Peter Lynns? Some guys love em!

what is the difference between the 05, 06 and 07 frenzys? and how does the pulse compare to the frenzys

I love the PL kites to bits, they're super stable, good power, good lift, nice all around kites, There's something to be said for tying your kite to the bumper while you're having lunch and just leaving it there sitting happily at zenith.

Big problem with the PL kites is they need wind, anything under 10mph, leave it in the bag, you may get it to fly, but it won't perform properly, my 13m Venom really liked 15mph + to be fun.

Flysurfers are the best around, but you pay dearly for it.

Dagon - are you going to use it with a mountainboard or just a buggy?

That would help us figure out a size.

Not sure about Frenzys - I've read very good things about them. I had a 9.5m HQ Montana, but I never really gave it a chance and I went back to Blades.

Then I figured I should have a go on depowers again. I read all I could and went for a Flysurfer.

The closed cell design is really stable! And the amount of depower is incredible and the new Speed 2 and Psycho 3 are rated even better.

I also like the idea of getting onto water this summer.

I've owned Frenzy07 10M less than a month now but I can see why it has such a good reputation. My other depowers kites so far were HQ Montana, Flexifoil Sabre 1 and 2. They all have good things to say but at the same time they have some minor things I didn't like that much. On the other hand, there is nothing I don't like about Frenzy. When I was doing landboarding on the beach with Frenzy, all I had to do was just enjoying my ride - Brian

Leebrianh - What kind of winds can you fly (safe) the 10m Frenzy in?

Just wondering what the top and bottom end are?

I didn't check the wind speed but I probably feel comfortable flying Frenzy 10M in between 10 and 15 mph. I am still learning but I am sure you can fly it over 15mph with some experience and power adjustment. - Brian

I want it mainly for buggy but I figure it can be a good segway into landboarding and snowkiting. So basically for all around use.

The new Montana 2 and HQ Apex are both coming out. Both are reseasonably priced as well for being depowerable kites. I haven't had a chance to fly either myself, however, from what I hear the changes they've made to the Montana are great and provide more lift, more depower, amongst other things. The apex is similar to the Ozone Access, backcountry style kite with less lift but great depower and pull.

If you're considering getting into watersports maybe the flysurfer or PL kites? I wish HQ would come out with a twinskin or closed cell foil myself...I'd love it. From what I hear Ozone is in the process of making one as well that should be released next year. They're definitely catching on that those of us that love our landsports would like to occassionally hit the water without having to purchase all new kiting gear to do so.
~Joe

some others not listed

Gin Yoz UDS
Gin Eskimo
Advance Offroad (older kite) but being updated this year with something newer.
Libre Pantera
Jojo Session
UL Profil Freestyle

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Originally posted by ripsessionkites some others not listed Gin Yoz UDS Gin Eskimo Advance Offroad (older kite) but being updated this year with something newer. Libre Pantera Jojo Session UL Profil Freestyle

+ Conceptair Smartkite

Thought we were going to get some reviews of the Smart Kite and a run down on how it is different :?:

some guy is selling a 9.5 sabre for 400CDN, what do you guys have to say about the sabres?

Stace (Archkiter) has one for sale here in the US:

Sabre for sale

I'm sure she'll be able to give you the scoop on it.

Hey dagon in few weeks I will have most of Flexifoil kites to demo on Ocean beach,so if You are not in a rush wait to try new Sabre2 and if You like it I'll hook you up.For now I can sell You my 12m frenzy 06-best size for boarding.I went to Utah in Dec and most people use 12m or 7m as they cover most of the winds.

yep I still have a nearly new Sabre 9.5 for sale

it's a great kite I just really want to get a buggy hence the reason for selling. PM me if you want more info. Also if you find youself up in Oregon anytime soon, you are welcome to give it a try.

Stace