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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 12:39 AM
Born Kite Long Star


Due for launch in mid June, is the new Long Star from Born-Kite.

It has a much wider window than the Nasa Star 3 but does not give away the brilliant stability the NS3 is known for. It uses a Leading Edge Depower system (LED). No fluttering and no collapse even in gusty conditions. You can control any backstall actively with the LED and relaunch is said to be very easy.

Will it be faster? Will it head upwind better? - I would think it will on both counts. At this point, I've only seen the photos and had a brief description from Steffen but I should have my hands on one when they become available and will let you know what I find.

No details on cost yet, we may have to wait till they appear on the website. Interestingly, this is not the Ultra Star - I don't know the differences but I believe the Ultra Star may be a little more like the Peak and should be available later this year.

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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 03:25 AM


Looks like the NPW9b HA that didn't flutter at all, turned really well, but it didn't have a very good window, this will be an interesting kite.



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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 03:43 AM


This looks very interesting. Last night, my wife was just saying how she wished I had a longer one. :D

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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 05:02 AM



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This looks very interesting. Last night, my wife was just saying how she wished I had a longer one. :D


Once you get a Long Star, you need never feel inadequate again!

Seriously though, everything I want in a kite is the stability and ease of use of the NS3 with 15% more speed and upwind ability. The Long Star may get awfully close to that - I'm chomping at the bit to try one.

I particularly like the color scheme. Sorta looks like two NS3's joined together....

Hmmmm.....Long Star.....anyone else getting images of gunslingers?



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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 06:36 AM


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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 06:58 AM


Thanks for the share John!
Can't wait to see the Ultra Star as well.



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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 03:13 PM


It is certainly very strange looking,... I'm very interested in seeing how it performs... And of course you can't help but wonder now that you've bought what you thought was the most recent Nasa Star design, he's already on to the next thing?!?!?



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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 04:28 PM



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And of course you can't help but wonder now that you've bought what you thought was the most recent Nasa Star design, he's already on to the next thing?!?!?


It would seem that Steffen is not one to sit around wondering if he can build a better mousetrap, so to speak.

I've known about the Ultra Star for a long time as a kite that would be more purpose built for buggying but hadn't seen any pics until they popped up in the German magazine. But I knew nothing about the Long Star till two weeks ago - progress on single skin design is looking pretty rapid this year. I know Peter Lynn has made something like 40 single skin, single line prototypes over the last couple of years and they've obviously done a bit of testing on the Mongolia trip.

Just goes to show, you never know what might be just around the corner. Mind you, none of the above makes my NS3 or NS2's any less enjoyable to fly. :D




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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 06:48 PM


I like the unique look of it. Looks like something out of a Batman movie.



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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 07:55 PM


Hats off to Born for continuing to innovate with NPWs. John any word on what sizes it will be offered?



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[*] posted on 23-5-2015 at 09:04 PM


Yellow is the 3m, Orange the 5m and Blue is a 7m. That's all that has been mentioned so far. Although I do note that the NS3 lineup has been expanded recently....:D



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[*] posted on 24-5-2015 at 05:51 AM


Come on Ultra Star!!!



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[*] posted on 4-7-2015 at 06:35 AM


Looking forward to trying this one.

Bigmike, will you have these and the upcoming ultra star available?
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[*] posted on 4-7-2015 at 07:31 AM


I'm seeing Batman too!!! :ticking:

I feel a gaping hole forming in my quiver already!

Would be super cool if Stefan played off of this with his color scheme. ;)

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[*] posted on 5-7-2015 at 05:31 AM


I was looking into the nasa star big size to rock my boat (surfboard) on the water.

And i stick to that. No matter how a kite flies, there is always the side effect of looking at it. And I dont like the design. Very depressing colors.


I am how ever intrested in the way this flies. It looks like a long nasa wing. By shape that is. Curious about the differences.

And I thinknits awesome that inovation is still here and brands dare to take a risk.



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[*] posted on 5-7-2015 at 05:33 AM


Quote: Originally posted by ssayre  
This looks very interesting. Last night, my wife was just saying how she wished I had a longer one. :D



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[*] posted on 7-7-2015 at 07:53 PM


Long Star being released July 20th

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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 10:11 AM


It's here and looks vastly different than what I was expecting from a control and depower perspective. Looks awesome.



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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 10:32 AM


That's a killer looking kite! As always, Steffen pushing the design envelope. That bar concept does look sweet. Looks like an adjustable stopper ball this time instead of the cam cleat? Damn... I want one....
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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 12:07 PM


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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 12:16 PM


Oh jeez... If I only had a spare kidney to sell :no:

That really looks awesome!



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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 12:19 PM


I just sent an email to Steffen with a CC to Big Mike asking about how to get one. I'd like to buy through Mike for a whole bunch of reasons. I'll post what I learn.

Beyond the question of how to get one, I also asked about how they compare size to power with the NS3s.

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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 03:18 PM


Get me a 5m too Steve while your at it ;)



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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 03:41 PM


Get in line Jason, get in line...



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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 03:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Windstruck  
I just sent an email to Steffen with a CC to Big Mike asking about how to get one. I'd like to buy through Mike for a whole bunch of reasons. I'll post what I learn.

Beyond the question of how to get one, I also asked about how they compare size to power with the NS3s.

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Mike said he was going to try and unload some ns3's before bringing the new stuff on one of his last posts, but who knows, maybe he will bring some in.
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[*] posted on 19-7-2015 at 03:52 PM


Yup Sean, I read that too. Can't blame him. I CCed him on my email to Steffen mentioning I'd like to buy on and get it from Mike if possible. I do want to buy from Mike for a host of reasons (Mike has done me some nice solids and I'm a loyal guy in face of such things), and I was hoping to generate a little momentum at the same time! ;)



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[*] posted on 1-9-2015 at 03:19 PM


Way too early for any sort of review yet as I've only been able to fly it in light and variable winds. But it certainly is one interesting little beastie!! Seems to make a lot of power for it's size, flys very nicely with good power through the turns. Haven't really had to depower it as such yet but you have to also use the depower to avoid it backstalling. I originally thought any deformation on the leading edge would stop it from going forward in the window..... I was completely wrong there and my first few outings as a result were not optimal. Once you get used to it, it all starts to make sense and it looks hugely promising for the buggy once I get some decent wind. It's definitely nothing like the NS2'3/3's - although it does show the same 'tracking like it's on rails' stability. Much wider window - I've even had it go clean over my head and luff (which was easily preventable).

Here's a peek in very light winds...





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[*] posted on 1-9-2015 at 07:15 PM


John - FANTASTIC! Thanks for the posting. As always, your videos are Bo informative and fun to watch. Nice tunes that broke out about half way through!



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[*] posted on 2-9-2015 at 04:23 PM


Sweet. I would not have my Stars without having watched John's vids first. Good stuff John!



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[*] posted on 2-9-2015 at 05:52 PM


interesting thing, if you look at the pictures John first posted of steffen flying these, he is only flying a 3 line set up typical of any nasa star. I suspect he split the bridles and added Z and 4 line later. I don't even see the additional transport loops on the version in the pictures. I wonder if he originally set out to make it more in line like the nasa stars as far as control, but maybe had trouble doing the traditional side launch / land with the wider profile and maybe needed the additional lines to prevent backstall. Either way, that tells me that with decent wind it will probably fly in 2 line mode like normal. That would certainly simplify things if used as a streetkite set up. I guess we will find out.
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