Winds here have been absolute crap as of late. Had about a two hr window of wind on Sunday that got me out riding the bug. Normally I wouldn't have bothered, but the 12m Peak pretty much saved an otherwise lack luster day. Nothing fast but enough to curb my kite withdrawals:D

https://youtu.be/XIqcVoDJYU8

Looks like it was nice smooth day...and a well behaved kite!
Nice video!

Your just showing off now.:P custom bug 2 go pro and is that your wife with you? Mine never wants to go.

Once in a while I can convince the wife to come along She has a couple kites she likes to static fly while I'm playing with the bug. I'm pretty fortunate.......she actually took up a small interest in flying stunt kites. Better than nothing at all is what I say. Winter is a diff story.....she would rather stay home where it's warm.

Thanks for the ride cheddar! Man I want a 6m....

Sweet video Cheddarhead!!! Nice to see a fellow devotee to the summer use of a 12M P2. That kite has absolutely saved me for the last month. I can't tell you how many times I would have not had a buggy session if it wasn't for my P2. My two Lynx kites are burning a hole in their bag but the conditions just don't suffice for them.

I saw a couple of things you were doing differently than me. You might have had stronger winds than I've had lately, but you were sheated in about 6" more than I usually do. Have you played with this much and do you think it makes a difference? If yes, what sort of difference. I'm still experimenting. Second, I liked how you dived the kite under in the turn instead of always up and back. I haven't tried that yet but it looks like it generates more consistent power through the turn, something I could use a bit more of.

I got some new low wind footage today with my P2 and will post pretty soon once I get things edited. Really nice field BTW!!!

You make low wind look easy. I enjoyed the trip there, nice area.

Steve,... the downtrun is an AWESOME thing... I was taught that when I first started learning and only upturn now when I feel overpowered or feel like I'm moving too fast... The downturn will really help pull you through those turns by A. sending the kite through the power zone and B. using gravity to help turn the kite over... it is an awesome trick to add to your toolbox and I highly recommend you tech it to yourself.

Just send the kite up a little before you are ready to turn and then down and through the window as you are timing out turning your wheel... usually simultaneously for me. A hard turn of the wheel usually sends the back end around in a slide which is always fun.

I notice it doesn't make much difference with the Nasa's though whether I Upturn or Downturn FYI.

I'll have to agree with you steve. This kite has been a savior so far this summer. It's been my most used in the bug thus far. Not exactly a fast turner, but what big kite is? It's got that low end grunt needed to pull through grass. This was my first real test since I got it back from John at Powerzone. Virtually all the tip tuck has been tuned out of it. John stated he couldn't get all the tip tuck out, but frankly, it's nearly perfect in my book. No comparison to how it was behaving before.

It took me a little while to get the timming right when doing a downturn. It's a slow turner especially in lite wind. I had to get used to initiating a turn with the kite far sooner than with my feet or I would end up out running the kite in the transition. All part of the learning curve.

Thanks Cheddarhead! Did you find the tip tuck got better with the cleat adjustment pulled in a bit as you have it? I've been running with it essentially let out all the way (or near all the way) thinking I could eek a little more power out of the wing that way. Agreed that tip tuck is the most (really only) irritating thing with this kite. Probably a negative for some, but I appreciate that it doesn't have too much upward lift compared to other DPs. As Spence and I have shared in other threads we hold in common our history of VOBEs (vertical out of buggy experiences), me with the P2 (completely pilot error) and I want to stay in so the grunt without the oh $%@#!s is a good thing.

Do you recommend any other tips or adjustments for "tuning"?

I'll experiment with the downturn. I get exactly what you mean about stalling the buggy turn until the kite moves around. I've slackened my lines a number of times in light wind conditions with this kite turning before I need to.

Goof stuff buddy! Great video!! :cool2:

Thanks Steve! In a previous thread discussing tuning, FrontRangeJeff and Prolatariat had talked about lengthening the front lines some to further help with the tucking. I simply shortened the rears by adjusting the connecting points under the floats. It was immediately apparent when fully trimmed out that it wanted to stall which tells me I went too far on the knot adjustment. Rather than stopping and re-adjusting my settings, I simply trimmed it in until it quit stalling then finished my riding. I re-adjusted my rear length after I was done riding. As far as riding with the bar in half way, I guess I didn't realize I was doing that until I watched the video
Seems you can learn a lot from watching yourself on video. Some things you don't realize your doing until you play back the footage. Good discussion

Rob

Rob - makes sense with adjusting the lines under the float. That's a level of tweaking I just haven't gotten to yet! Darned pleased overall with the P2.

I was part way through editing a low wind P2 buggy video when you posted this one. B on the lookout for mine possibly later today. I maw have to call mine Too Low Wind as will be evident once you see it. Good practice really, but a little frustrating.

Great clip! I really fancy a bigger Peak, and this video has just made me fancy one even more!!

I've been buggying with my 6m Peak 1, and even in fairly low winds of 10-15mph I can still get some decent pull out of it. It's a sweet kite and I'd love a bigger one especially now summer is officially here in the UK (hottest day in nigh on 10 years today, 36.7 degrees recorded at Heathrow!)

Really not sure on whether I'd go for a 9m or a 12m P2 though. All the talk of tip tuck and tuning issues has made me wary of shelling out for a 12m Peak 2. Maybe a 9m Peak 1 would be the ticket, anyone had a chance to compare both!?

Regarding riding with the bar in about halfway, I think I do that too. If you ride with the bar all the way out all the time I guess you have nowhere to go with the bar if a gust hits and you want to dump it at the bar!

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Really not sure on whether I'd go for a 9m or a 12m P2 though. All the talk of tip tuck and tuning issues has made me wary of shelling out for a 12m Peak 2. Maybe a 9m Peak 1 would be the ticket, anyone had a chance to compare both!?

Agree. I think a 9m would suit me perfectly in the summer

Sean, the P2 is really a nice low wind option.
I don't know your conditions in Indiana, but I fear the 9M may be a tad small for summer use. I've had a lot of success with the 12M, the only drawback being some wing tip folding. I still think this is "pilot error". I haven't spent the time to adjusting the lines within the floaters that I understand others have done to tune theirs up a bit. For low wind sessions the 12M is certainly what I need to get some grunt. Truth is, I've wanted to contact Flysurfer to see if they are planning to make any Peak2's LARGER than 12M. I'd strongly consider a 16M if they would make one (assuming it could be tuned, etc.). I'm sure a hypothetical 16M P2 would turn even slower than the existing 12M but it would give more grunt on light wind days.

Lately, we've had hot days in the high 80's, low 90's and the wind kicks up a bit in the mid afternoon, but doesn't seem to get over 10 knots, and a lot of the time I am trying to eek out a buggy session in 5-8 knots sustained.