Thought it might be best to break this one out of the jumping thread so its not lost...

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Originally posted by DaVinch Tridude (king of Begos) - Here is Scoopy's old Bego setup page: Bego Setup Tips Here is the text: Power Ring Length Originally posted by mee (flexifoil screen name, not me ) 10cm Power ring line lengths = loads of low wind power 2mph - the canopy is a little more unstable than it would be without the rings but not by much 20cm power ring line lengths = when the wind gets stronger 6mph - 10mph this setting still gives loads of power with more controability and stability No rings = good power flying winthin manufacturers wind ranges. Center line removed ( this is the line that links the bridles on the power lines) The kite does not stall as much on spin turns or loose pressure in the canopy as fast. Removing this line does not put any stress on the bridle ( this is from the manufacturer). Recommended Ring Length Per Kite Bego 200 - 3-5cm or 1-1.5 inches between main and brake lines. Bego/Neptune 400 - 7-8cm or 2-2.5 inches between main and brake lines. Bego/Neptune 600 - 10-15cm or 3.5-4.5 inches between main and brake lines. Power Ring Offset Originally Posted by Blazingskibum (Flexifoil screen name) Power ring offset length is important but also we have found that high and low positions have some cool changes. We have found that: 1) High ring connection(right at the top,bridle junction) and short offsets( around 5 to 6 inches). This setting seems to have the most lift. Above 10mph wind is where this setting has real good pop and float. Seems to slow the kite down quite rapidly when brakes are applied lightly(basically lighter than the lower power ring setting) but still keeps good inflation and shape. And will easily reaccellerate without a hiccup or stall. Handling is very nimble with possible oversteers and unwanted spins(this comes under control very quickly but will catch you off guard at first). This setting is what I use for static flying, Jumping, kiteboarding, snowkiting. 2)Low ring connection(as low as you can go) and long offsets( 7 to 9 inches). A bit speeder than the high ring setting. Handling is less radical, kite tracks much better than higher/short setting. This setting, performance wise is not much different than "no rings" but this setting has better brake feel/control than "no rings". Still has good pop and lift but not like the higher/short setting. Most folks here like this setting for the lighter wind range. This setting is what I use for light wind static flying, buggying and long distance enduro snowkiting. Brake Line Length There really is not set length, it depends on how you hold your handles. With no brakes on at all, the rear of the kite should be kinda rounded looking and you should be able to make out the pleats where the cells come together. When you apply a very small, light amount of brake, the kite should look like it gets longer from side to side, and more narrow front to back, and you will lose the look of the cells connecting on the trailing edge. There will actually be a small crease along the rear of the kite. When you go from no brakes to slight brakes, this is what people have called the "turbo boost" You should experience 30-50% more power while like this, but with less speed. Other Tweaks This if for the Bego 600 ONLY. Another tweak is that I have cut 4" out of the center of the "limit link line" between the power bridle lines. Put knots every 2 inches and use a loop of bridle line and larks heads to connect and adjust the link line. This makes adjusting the line very fast and simple. This is a very useable tweak that will extend the wind range of the Bego 600.

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Originally posted by B-Roc Does anyone know if the "High ring / low ring" setting lengths refer to the 400 or the 600? My power rings are ~6.5" on the 400 (thanks DaVinch) and I have them set above the second power bridle knot and the kite is flying fine. I view that setting as a compromise setting / length between the high and low setting described but am debating changing mine down to the 2-3" recommendation. I was going to do that by cutting and redoing the power ring lines so I can larkshead one loop to the bridle with knots every inch for 5-6" and then larkshead a loop to the pulley which I could larskhead to the power ring strand on the power bridle to allow for quick offsetting but so far I'm pretty content with the setting I have. PS... got a chance to jump with it today (static). Gusts were to 20 but average winds were 7-12. Gusty jumping is a bit unnerving but I had to try it - a little unpredictable and unstable but one or two went higher than I expected. Light snow is predicted tonight! Moderate snow is predicted for Friday!! More snow is predicted next week!!!

Anyone got any other info on power rings they want to share...

OK, so now that begos are becoming pretty popular with fliers on this forum, anyone got any new information on power ring lengths and positions or is everyone pretty much doing what is described above?

can anyone provide photos of the power ring setup? I'd love to see how innovative you all have been!

Power rings as requested --3.5 inches long--larks knot on power bridle to break line! as usual...............................stoaked!!!!

Tridude - Can you post a pic of the Ronstan Pulley type also for him.

why dont you like my rings? Sure can do easy!

Well..I think I would like the pulley setup better :D

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Originally posted by B-Roc OK, so now that begos are becoming pretty popular with fliers on this forum, anyone got any new information on power ring lengths and positions or is everyone pretty much doing what is described above?

My 400 has 4 inch rings, the 200 3 inches. As for position, I attached them (using a larks knot) just above the knot on the main bridle. Seems the higher I go, the kite wants to cart wheel. Noticed the same affect on the 600. So for me right at the main bridle/power line knot is working fine! Da V has input Im sure! as usual............................................stoaked

Here's a Ronstan Pulley setup I had on a Bego 400:

Hey Davinch, that looks familiar

Yup - that's yours!

Yeah, those Ronstan Pulleys look sweet. I think i'll go for that setup. Maybe try a 4-inch length and see how that goes. I assume those are an easy hardware store purchase (pulleys) and the 4-inch piece doesn't necesarily need to be super strong.
I'll give it a whirl when i get my kite.

Ronstan pulleys aren't a hardware store type purchase - at least not out my way.

Where did you get those DaVinch?

A boating store near me sells Ronstan pulleys and while they sell two types that are similarly sized to the ones you gave me, they are stainless steel only and don't have as clean a shape / fitment as the ones you used.

The hardware stores typically sell clunky, heavy pulleys.

DaVinch's Ronstans are really light and part of them seem composite as opposed to steel so they add very little weight to the kite.

The line fixing the pulley to your power leader doesn't need to be super strong. If you've got extra flying line floating around, use that. If not, hit a boating or mountainering store and get 2mm spectra (I think that's the smallest diameter they seem to sell al though 1mm would likely do to) Anything with a shock load of ~150#s or so would do fine so if you have some extra spectra line hanging around - use that.

Look all the way down on this page:

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Da V,

Thanks for reposting the Annapolis web site--i ordered 4 red ronstans just so you will sleep better! Honestyly, what would we do without you?
as usual.........................................stoaked

you know the sport is booming when they are developing equipment just for us!:tumble:

Seems so Wood....... There are a few big time kite shops in that area and HQs USA headquarters is in Chesapeake, Va. so Im sure they saw the market/demand for these type of kite accessories. Big bad weather report posted for tomorrow........................

Coastal South Caroina waters (NOAA report)

TORNADO WATCH 24 IN EFFECT UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST TONIGHT

SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY MORNING
THROUGH WEDNESDAY EVENING

TONIGHT
SE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT...BECOMING W 15 TO 20 KT AFTER
MIDNIGHT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT. SHOWERS WITH A CHANCE OF TSTMS...THEN A
SLIGHT CHANCE OF SHOWERS AFTER MIDNIGHT. SOME TSTMS MAY PRODUCE ERRATIC...
GUSTY WINDS AND ISOLATED WATERSPOUTS.

WED
W WINDS 20 TO 25 KT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT.

Oh yeah thats what Im talkin about................ airtime-o-plenty

more than usual.........................................stoaked!!:D

In case it all goes wrong tomorrow, I just redid my living will. The Bego 600 goes to BRoc, the 400 and 200 to Da V, and Woodie you got the 4.9!
Had one thought though, what about Carmen Electra in a white bego Skytex bikini?:P as usual..................................stoaked!!

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Originally posted by tridude In case it all goes wrong tomorrow, I just redid my living will. The Bego 600 goes to BRoc,

Thanks man :tumble:

And don't take this the wrong way, but I'm really hoping things go wrong :wink2:

awesome who is your lawyer?