Cheddarhead
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Spars for a 15m Phantom I
Looking for some replacement spars for my Phantom I. Would prefer carbon. Any other dealers that have these? Sent a U2U to Angus but not sure how
much he visits this site anymore.
SS Turbine 17m
SS Rally 14m
SS Rally 12m
SS RPM 10m
SS Rally 8m
SS Rally 6m
FS Speed 3 15m dlx
FS Peak 2 6m
Ozone Frenzy 9m
Ozone Access XT 6m
PL Farc 1200
What I ride:
Home brew buggy
Volkl race tiger DH 210
Dynastar DH 218
Blizzard Cochise 185
Steepwater 179 twin tip
Aboards Reverse 161
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The carbon spars in my Venom broke and I tried a pair of one piece bamboo canes. Work like a treat! Is a pain that they don't collapse but got me
back flying. Might be imagining it but I think the kite flies nicer too, the bamboo has a bit more flex than the spars.
Rev 1.5 SLE
PL Pepper 1.5m, Twister III 3m
Flysurfer Peak I 6m, Peak II 12m
Ozone Access V6 6m, 4m incoming!
Arcs Venom 13m, Synergy 15m
LEIs Slingshot Rally 7m, 9, 12m
Kheo Flyer Landboard
PTW SuperBug II
Nobile NHP Carbon Split
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Cheddarhead
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http://www.intothewind.com/
This seems like a reasonable place and price to make a set but I don't know what size carbon rod I need at the moment. Need to do some measuring
first and see what matches my needs.
SS Turbine 17m
SS Rally 14m
SS Rally 12m
SS RPM 10m
SS Rally 8m
SS Rally 6m
FS Speed 3 15m dlx
FS Peak 2 6m
Ozone Frenzy 9m
Ozone Access XT 6m
PL Farc 1200
What I ride:
Home brew buggy
Volkl race tiger DH 210
Dynastar DH 218
Blizzard Cochise 185
Steepwater 179 twin tip
Aboards Reverse 161
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Quote: Originally posted by robinsonpr | The carbon spars in my Venom broke and I tried a pair of one piece bamboo canes. Work like a treat! Is a pain that they don't collapse but got me
back flying. Might be imagining it but I think the kite flies nicer too, the bamboo has a bit more flex than the spars. |
That's a good idea! I really don't care if they collapse or not, just want something light and strong that will get my kite back in the air:D
SS Turbine 17m
SS Rally 14m
SS Rally 12m
SS RPM 10m
SS Rally 8m
SS Rally 6m
FS Speed 3 15m dlx
FS Peak 2 6m
Ozone Frenzy 9m
Ozone Access XT 6m
PL Farc 1200
What I ride:
Home brew buggy
Volkl race tiger DH 210
Dynastar DH 218
Blizzard Cochise 185
Steepwater 179 twin tip
Aboards Reverse 161
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cheap and dirty, home depot plow markers. I know the sell plow markers in Wisco. get a set for about 5$ (orange or red)
Otherwise replacement tent poles in the 8-10mm range.
Cheaper than PL spars by a long shot.
Chris Krug-Owner @ Hardwater Kiting. Authorized Dealer of Ozone, Flysurfer, HQ kites.
www.hardwaterkiter.com 603-986-2784
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Sorry to be late to the thread. Rob, saw your U2U but needed to get back to my desk to get the web site and parts info. I'll post here for all to
see...
Vliegerop no longer sells replacement spars for Peter Lynn kites except for the very latest models, so no other kite shop can help unless they do
something like this...
Go to Quest outfitters.... http://questoutfitters.com/tent_poles.htm#TENT%20POLES
This is the place where I bought the components to make the hundreds of spar sets that I have shipped all around the world. These components are made
by Easton, who make OEM components for many tent companies as well as the US military.
Peter Lynn spar segments were exactly 15" (weird because they were otherwise metric). Add the 2" for the connecting inserts and you have 17" which
will fit in to any ARC kite bag when collapsed. The stock segments that Quest sells are 18" (plus inserts), so to duplicate the originals, you will
have to cut down the spar segments, or use them as is to create longer segments and then do the math to end up at the correct overall length. I had
my spar segments custom made to the 15" size but I ordered in large quantities that allowed decent pricing.
The Quest part number for the spar with insert is 4022. The size is .433". They are a couple of mm thinner than the stock PL spars but work fine.
They are made of 6062 aluminum so they are tough.
For the end caps, I used the aluminum "domed" end caps, Quest part number 4031, size .433. These are far superior to the cheap plastic end caps used
by PL because they will not (likely) punch through your spar pocket like a cookie cutter in the event of a crash,
For the shock cord, I used the 3/32" black elastic cord, Quest part # 2402. Tie them to the end caps with bowline knots.
For spar lengths for any PL ARC, I have a spreadsheet that I call the "stickulator" with every PL spar from the Bomba to the Chargers. e-mail me for
it or give some time to post it on my site for download. You can also go here....
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/mx5alan/arcs/ARCsetup_FAQ.htm
...for most spar lengths. because my spars were slightly thinner than PL stock, and because with the rounded end-caps they fit the spar pockets more
efficiently, I cut my final assembled spars a few mm longer. This is not critical because the stock PL spars were often cut inaccurately anyway.
To cut aluminum spars, use a small tubing cutter available at any hardware store for about $7
I hope this is some help.
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Vliegerop will MAKE the proper size you need for Peter Lynn kites. You just need to give them a few days and the kite you are getting spars for.
They come as a pair. If you need some original equipment from the original manufacturer, I can get them for you. However, any of the above
alternatives should work fine.
Mike
Owner Big Mike's Kites
http://www.BigMikesKites.com
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Buggy: VTT BLACK WIDOW...The best
Peter Lynn XR+ w VTT Rail Kit
Landboard: Not a chance
Water: still trying
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Thanks guys for all your help!:bigok: I'll have "her" up and flying in no time. Lots of good options
SS Turbine 17m
SS Rally 14m
SS Rally 12m
SS RPM 10m
SS Rally 8m
SS Rally 6m
FS Speed 3 15m dlx
FS Peak 2 6m
Ozone Frenzy 9m
Ozone Access XT 6m
PL Farc 1200
What I ride:
Home brew buggy
Volkl race tiger DH 210
Dynastar DH 218
Blizzard Cochise 185
Steepwater 179 twin tip
Aboards Reverse 161
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Cheddarhead
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It's ironic that out of all the great ideas above, I found a completely different product to make spars from. While walking thru our local Fleet n'
Farm store I accidently found some fiberglass chimney cleaning rods that are the same diameter of original PL spars. They come in 6 foot lengths.
Simply trim to length, round off the ends and their done! No end caps to get stuck or ferrules to corrode:D Only cost me about 7.50 per piece x 2,
so a total of 15 bucks and I have new spars Can't complain about that.
SS Turbine 17m
SS Rally 14m
SS Rally 12m
SS RPM 10m
SS Rally 8m
SS Rally 6m
FS Speed 3 15m dlx
FS Peak 2 6m
Ozone Frenzy 9m
Ozone Access XT 6m
PL Farc 1200
What I ride:
Home brew buggy
Volkl race tiger DH 210
Dynastar DH 218
Blizzard Cochise 185
Steepwater 179 twin tip
Aboards Reverse 161
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Angus, thanks so much for sharing. Your spars are awesome. I was worried I might never again be able to upgrade my spars.
Philip
I fly: Charger II 6.5m * Charger II 8m * Charger II 10m * Scorpion 10 (for sale) * Phantom II 12m * F-Arc 1200 * Venom 13m
I ride: Peter Lynn XR+ on Midis * Flexifoil Midi/Barrow * Peter Lynn Comp on Barrows * Peter Lynn XR+ (needs a fork)
I build: Custom bars for buggy pilots
I write about kite stuff: at http://philipbchase.com
Philip Chase
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