Read this post and as I have no clue when it comes through powe kiting found this great.

My son wants a power kite . I bout a hq one for him quite small but the lines tangled awful. We wants to be able to lean against the pull and start learning to skud. I don't want him jumping for obvious reasons. We have a large field close to us that nearly always has a moderate breeze. He is 13 average slight build. Would appreciate a good starter quite with which he could start learning to skudding. Any ideas? Budget is quite low.

P.S the post I refer to is please read before you ask what type to buy lol

Welcome to PKF, 1st make him figure out how to untangle those lines, its an important part of this sport
then he can fly that one till #2 comes along..set up and pack up need to be 2nd nature if scudding is gonna be

Is it an hq kite on a bar and 3 lines or handles and 4 lines? If bar, set up and pack up should be straight forward. Just fugure 8 wrap on around bar from end to end. If its a 4 line kite on handles then I use the method in this video and it works great every time. There are many variations of the method but this gives the idea.

pack up and set up is first step to master like abkayak says

Hi thanks for replies it is a hq symphony iii beach kite. Just two lines. I found the lines rather thin and they tangled very easy. But yes I agree setting up let us down

I know know this kite is not up to much so any advice on an upgrade to start skudding would be much appreciated.

tafflaff - welcome to PKF. Nice that you are taking the time like this to set your son up properly and safely for fun and success. Abkayak kindly bumped the all-important first thread to read top to bottom earlier today. You can access it directly by clicking here:

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=28759

What you will see permeating throughout that thread (and really through much of the entire PKF site) is the concept of starting with a simple, standard workhorse, the small fixed bridle kite. These kites are typically flown off of handles and have four lines (left and right power and brake) that split up the duties. Learning to fly a kite like this in a polished and smooth fashion will set your son up for success with pretty much every kite he ever flies afterwards. Pull, braking, wind window, stalling, hot-launching, kite killers, etc., the 3m FB is really a starting point. As he is 13 and as you noted of average slight build, going down to a 2m or 2.5m FB could easily be a great call. Believe us all when we tell you that a "small" kite like this can still pack a heck of a whollop. At some point you'll learn to appreciate the concept of the Superman, but that is for a later time...

Finding good quality used small RTF (ready to fly) FB kites is a black art. You can certainly keep your eye pealed in the For Sale section of PKF or other reputable kite sites or play roulette on Craigs List, Ebay, etc. Just for your reference, one of the really nice features of PKF is the Good Trader List:

http://www.powerkiteforum.com/viewthread.php?tid=16272

We are a family of sorts here and the overwhelming majority of folks here are people you should have complete confidence in dealing with. It is comforting to ponder a sale and see the person selling reviewed in this informal fashion.

As for tangling the lines, I know I've been there and I bet most others here have too in the beginning. Sean (ssayre) pointed you to one of the real masters of kite videos John Holgate from Australia. Consider watching other videos by him on YouTube (he's got a bunch). Long story short, figure 8s on, figure 8s off. The trick is to do what ever you did during winding exactly the opposite way during unwinding. Video explains.

Good luck and welcome!