Demoknight
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Pair of strops
I am looking for two separate strops from anyone that has any they aren't using. I usually make my own, but I ran out of material and the original
source doesn't have it anymore.
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as cheep as it may sound, go to home depot and buy some 50lb nylon rope(the stuff that is braided around a white core). everyone in the world will say
that isnt enough but you can do it or pay more for something not needed. I have been using this stuff for years and have never had a failure other
than the power line off the handles to the kite. or you can order some amsteal online for 100% more and make everyone outside of your pocket happy
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you pay me 6 bucks shipping and I will give you 20 feet of the stuff I use for free.
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Flexboardz. Blokarts.
PKD Century Soulflys. NPW's. Nasa Stars.
A few other less flown oddballs,
Line sets from 10" to 328" or 2m to 100m.
worlds only AQR that works.
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What was your original source? I just buy 6mm cord from sailing or mountaineering stores. That stuff is fine, built to last and relatively inexpensive
for the length you need.
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Demoknight
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I bought some nylon stuff from a guy that worked great, but it wears down fast. Never had one snap on me yet, but I replace it when it starts to look
worn.
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Ozone R1 V3 7m
Flysurfer Sonic v3 15m
Flysurfer Speed 3 Deluxe 19m
Peter Lynn Charger 2 12m
Ozone Access Reride 6m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 5.5m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 8.6m
Prism Tensor 5.0m
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Quote: Originally posted by B-Roc | What was your original source? I just buy 6mm cord from sailing or mountaineering stores. That stuff is fine, built to last and relatively inexpensive
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+1 to this, it's what I've used (minus the one pre-sewn loop strop I own). It's cheap, doesn't ravel, and is easy to replace/find.
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What do you use the strops for? How long and what diameter are you looking for? I have a small rigging shop as a side job/hobby and have 35 spools of
rope in my house :D I have polyester double braid in 6-12mm and will have a good stock of dyneema here in a few weeks, from 2-5mm.
I have lots of scrap cover material that's good for lashing as well. It's 8mm with the core removed, so a hollow tube basically. It's still pretty
strong even without the core.
Any standard marine quality rope will be infinitely stronger, last longer, and be less stretchy than hardware junk. Just look at the breaking
strengths. The cheap 10mm double braid I sell is almost 10k lb rope, same diameter at the hardware store is probably labeled 500lbs.
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I never felt foolish for spending a few dollars on Amsteel strops I knot myself. But the nylon stuff at the hardware store is probably up to the task
as well. It's just a matter of strength and resistance to abrasion. In real terms, you are totally screwed if you are getting more than 500 lbs
pressure on your strop for more than an instant. At that point you have bigger problems than strop strength.
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Ditto above on the Blue Amsteel line. super slippery too, unlike some coarse braided jacketed stuff.
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Memopad, if you could slip a few meters of scrap ~6-8mm line in the mail to me, I would love to rig up new strops for my quiver.
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I'll send you a message Heap.
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Errol, I'm sure I have a couple ozone strops I could give you at Jibe if your interested. Or if needed earlier, I could drop em in the mail.
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Quote: Originally posted by BeamerBob | I never felt foolish for spending a few dollars on Amsteel strops I knot myself. But the nylon stuff at the hardware store is probably up to the task
as well. It's just a matter of strength and resistance to abrasion. In real terms, you are totally screwed if you are getting more than 500 lbs
pressure on your strop for more than an instant. At that point you have bigger problems than strop strength. |
my local west marine carries polyester braided rope with braided core that I think is 1200 lb and is 1/4". Plenty strong but the problem with it is
making loops. I've watched a couple videos and it's very involved and complicated when compared to making a loop with Amsteel using the brumel lock
something or other.
Also, I've thought about removing the core and making loops out of the polyester rope but couldn't find information on how strong those are without
the core?? I'm assuming it would still be plenty strong for my purposes but haven't tried it yet.
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The core provides the strength. The sheath provides protection for the core. While braided loops are elegant, a knot on the end and attached with a
larks head offers field adjustability and ready to go in minutes.
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Quote: Originally posted by BeamerBob | The core provides the strength. The sheath provides protection for the core. While braided loops are elegant, a knot on the end and attached with a
larks head offers field adjustability and ready to go in minutes. |
I 100% agree and that's exactly what i did when I had fixed bridle kites. But I would like to get some amsteel to tinker around with making depower
line and chicken loop components to possibly make my own bars and accessories for my current quiver. Certain components require loops with no knots
and amstee looks like it would be much simpler and better to work with for such things. I think that's what depower bars use isn't it?
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In fact, if talking strictly fb strops, the polyester rope with core is what I used and no knots are required at all. I could larks head over a handle
with knot or run through a handle with loop and not need any knot in the strop itself because the polyester rope compresses around the core and locks
in. I never had one budge. Pe isn't as slick though but wouldn't matter if using a pulley.
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I typically do a no-loop strop so I can adjust their length if I want. I just tie a simple knot on each end and larS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s head through the
strop loop on handles. It is so much more simple than having to unhook lines to remove or add your strop.I have never had one come loose on me doing
that. The rabbit comes out his hole, around the tree, back in the hole.
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Kites:
Ozone R1 V3 7m
Flysurfer Sonic v3 15m
Flysurfer Speed 3 Deluxe 19m
Peter Lynn Charger 2 12m
Ozone Access Reride 6m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 5.5m
Peter Lynn 2013 Reactor 8.6m
Prism Tensor 5.0m
Ride:
GT-Race Code:R6
Weird Beard VTT Custom
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Quote: Originally posted by Demoknight | I typically do a no-loop strop so I can adjust their length if I want. I just tie a simple knot on each end and larS-P-A-M-L-I-N-K-s head through the
strop loop on handles. It is so much more simple than having to unhook lines to remove or add your strop.I have never had one come loose on me doing
that. The rabbit comes out his hole, around the tree, back in the hole. |
Yep, I discovered that method on my own, then beamerbob pointed out that it's right in the pl directions which I had all along but didn't realize it.
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