I'm curious if anybody has an old pair of Coyote Rollerblades laying around that they don't intend to use anymore. I could be interested in buying just the frames and wheels, not the boots. I'd want to figure out if I could mount the frames on my existing Seba skate boots (I think I can, but am not 100% sure). Thanks in advance - your trash could be my treasure!





Yes, I know the picture above is a custom 2-wheel 200mm setup. Factory stock came with three, 150mm pneumatic tires.

I just got a pair of Coyote skates on EBay for cheap. I'll modify them for use with my skate boots. Psyched! My Metropolis SUV frames and wheels are great but the wheels are only 125mm. In taller grass they don't roll as well as I'd like. The Coyote wheels are 150mm so they should work better. I know I have the option of going all the way to two 200mm wheels per skate if I have to!

Congrats! You'll soon know if these work better in the grass...

I also have to say, Crap!....Didn't realize and thought they were same size wheels......... Forgot to check.

I am likely to find out soon, what the difference of 125mm vs. 150mm
on beach's hard pack. Might be interesting, on this surface.

I have a guess which might be....faster(better roll)... which more stable...more cushioning..'floaty'?....

You would love your Coyotes on beach hardpack!

Too bad you can't add bigger wheels to PS frame like Cotote frame.

I think where the bigger 200mm would work better, is if you had soil that was rougher..... uneven, rutty, pitted, bigger pebbly, and rocky soil...maybe..?


You'll want to have spare wheels(tire, tube, rim, bearing) to throw on in case of flats or bearing failure...and flats can happen. Middle tire flat needs no immediate attention to continue but any other tire you better at least have a spare tube. But also have some bearings.

Found this interesting piece:
comparison- click here

The Powerslide Metropolis SUV is better for running up stairs..anyways...but what does that have to do with kiting?!:









Experience will tell me what I need to know

Quote: Originally posted by skimtwashington

The Powerslide Metropolis SUV is better for running up stairs..anyways...but what does that have to do with kiting?!:

Crazy video and an even crazier guy! Thanks for the post. I came across that video on YouTube with off-rode skating searchers when I was researching these things a couple of months agao. No, I don't intend to try and beat or even match his record on stairs! :o

I'm still in the "hope this works" stage of things in terms of bolting the Coyote frames and wheels onto my Seba skates. I'll make it work somehow even if I need to design an interface plate to get things to match up.

I'm not worried at all about the increased weight penalty that comes with the Coyote frames. Yes, the Powerslide frames are super light, but so what for kiting? The increased weight may even work out to be a net improvement for my application.

The grass I want to use these on are a series of athletic fields around town. Long, natural grass that is well irrigated. I suspect the 150mm Coyote wheels will provide better ride than the 125mm SUVs.

I'm heading down to IBX in about two weeks. I know the SUVs will work fine on that hard pack. Hopefully my Coyotes will be here and set up by then so I can do a comparison.

This whole kite skating thing seems to be a super small cult here on PKF and on XK in Australia. Like PKF and XK weren't already Cult-ish, here seems to be a sub-Cult! :D

great you got a pair. i checked the measure 165mm, + a slotted front mount. with plenty of room for redrill if needed.

SUV's much more nimble . the COYotes 7 lbs. each !


first thing the tires must be pumped ROCK HARD! to stroke these. 30min on this stroked up to speed will BLOW you out. for kite best i have done is 2 hours, or til tires pop.

just about any other skate will be less work, hard surface will fun with either set up on kite .

soft grass is tough , tall wheels will be better , a bit fatter even better.

lets see what you got when all is set up!

Quote: Originally posted by PHREERIDER

great you got a pair. i checked the measure 165mm, + a slotted front mount. with plenty of room for redrill if needed. SUV's much more nimble . the COYotes 7 lbs. each ! first thing the tires must be pumped ROCK HARD! to stroke these. 30min on this stroked up to speed will BLOW you out. for kite best i have done is 2 hours, or til tires pop. just about any other skate will be less work, hard surface will fun with either set up on kite . soft grass is tough , tall wheels will be better , a bit fatter even better. lets see what you got when all is set up!

Great news about the slotted frames - exactly what I was hoping to find!!!! Thanks for letting me know this Phree. I have four 150mm tires that came with the XC Path frames that I can probably use as backup for the Coyote wheels. I don't see myself using those frames too much because of the inability to carve a turn with that set up. Time will tell with all this. I'll post pictures once everything gets set up. :D

your going to face plant so hard with these or your other skates. I hope not but likely :evil:

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your going to face plant so hard with these or your other skates. I hope not but likely :evil:

Why should I be any different? :karate: I've got a full helmet with chin protrusion (motorcycle helmet), wrist guards, elbow guards, knee guards, and hockey girdle specially designed for street hockey. Nothing for the shoulders at this point; clearly I'll have to have the wits to fall in such a way to avoid pile driving my shoulders into the ground.

I'm only teasing. I just imagine trying to traverse my grass terrain that usually has some wruts from mowers that toss me around in the buggy. It sounds like you have the safety covered. It's a shame they didn't want you on your artificial turf suface. That looked great for skates.

Quote: Originally posted by ssayre

I'm only teasing. I just imagine trying to traverse my grass terrain that usually has some wruts from mowers that toss me around in the buggy. It sounds like you have the safety covered. It's a shame they didn't want you on your artificial turf suface. That looked great for skates.

No worries, I knew you were just horsing. The thing with the artificial surface fields are the obstacles all around them and their size. They have lighting, flag poles, fencing, goal posts, you name it. Not much room to maneuver really. I just wanted to skate on them first to make at least the surface predictable.

I got out on one of our grass fields late last week and skated a bit before trying out my new buggy upgrade. Heck with the mowing irregularities and even the gopher and vole holes, how about the countless door prizes left by the dozens or scores of deer, elk, and moose from their grazing? Now those are obstacles! :evil:

speaking of tight areas, I know feyd talked about half lining the peaks. I think I know how to do it but not without being a semi-pain in the rear. I wonder if he knows an easy way?

I guess there is nothing to match the combination of Coyotes Wheel size and relatively short and maneuverable wheel base length. And this -relative to what's available and for versatility to go on grass fields, dirt roads , beach hard pack- may just be the best all around sizing set up for kiting.

I don't think trying the PL Metropolis SUV's with their smaller wheels on the beach hardpack will yield any improvement(except fit) over the coyotes but will instead have more rolling resistance.

I can't return them after trying...only could resell on used market and for a lo$$...so having 2nd thoughts to not bother. I was looking for a more comfortable fit, mostly. We'll see..

If only The Metropolis SUV had the Coyote size wheels.. Drat!

Quote: Originally posted by skimtwashington

I guess there is nothing to match the combination of Coyotes Wheel size and relatively short and maneuverable wheel base length. And this -relative to what's available and for versatility to go on grass fields, dirt roads , beach hard pack- may just be the best all around sizing set up for kiting. I don't think trying the PL Metropolis SUV's with their smaller wheels on the beach hardpack will yield any improvement(except fit) over the coyotes but will instead have more rolling resistance. I can't return them after trying...only could resell on used market and for a lo$$...so having 2nd thoughts to not bother. I was looking for a more comfortable fit, mostly. We'll see.. If only The Metropolis SUV had the Coyote size wheels.. Drat!

Skim - reading your note just now I'm not clear if you are having "buyers remorse" having already purchased some PS SUVs (with 125m wheels) or if you ar simply having second thoughts about possibly purchasing them.

I'll know in about a week or so if my theory pays off, but one way to go is to get comfortable skating boots and then bolt coyote frames underneath them. I just bought used Coyotes on EBay with no concern for the boot size since I only want them for their bases.

I suspect that the SUZ wheels are both too small in diameter and width to be smooth rollers on beach sand. Maybe really hard boilerplate sand, but not anything that your feet could sink into even a little bit. For me I'm interested in wheels that roll with little impunity on mowed grass and the Ivanpah playa. The latter is very hard and pretty smooth so I don't think it will be the problem. The problem is thick plush gras that isn't cut as short as I'd like it to be (what are those groundskeepers thinking?).

I'll take photos of everything once I get things coming together. Hopefully in about a week.

Thick wet spring time grass is the worst. Always feels like I'm stuck in mud in the buggy until I get moving decent and even then If there is a momentary lapse in wind then I come to a stop. Poor field conditions is what got me kiting asphalt. I absolutely dispise thick turf that's on the verge of needing mowed which describes my field conditions until July. Don't get me wrong, I'll still be out there.

Yeah...okay....Buyers remorse.:embarrased: bought over weekend.

That's why I said I spaced and didn't double check most important thing...wheel size!

BTW....First set up was Coyote Frame mounted (bolted) to wood board and on top of board was mounted tele bindings. With tele boots it was a HEAVY set up! When I got a complete pair of coyotes it was much , much better.

I think melding different boot w / Coyote frames will be not so easy. Not for me, anyway.

Boot shell of Coyote is okay. Inner boot is not too good. I could switch out liner for one of my Thermo liners from a telemark boot perhaps. All in all it's not that bad a fit. I just wanted 'all day comfort" of a better fit, *no broken buckles, and a slightly lighter boot would also have been a plus.

If you meld a boot with the frames..be careful centering it laterally over the wheels..... allow lateral adjustment ..put them on and test balance......or you will be always slightly off balance-with your knees or the wheels skewed and at an slight angle!



I think I'll just get a shipping RA and send them back.


*By the way...
Be prepared. Coyotes are notorious for having the buckle band insert snap off/fracture. Expect that it may happen. . I have both boots with this issue and had to fix/mcGyver them.

Get a two inch wide Velcro strip that you can use in emergency to wrap and close fully around shell's plastic cuff. One of my buckle straps rebroke. I am using a 2 inch wide Velcro strip to wrap around and close that 'cuff' where buckle is on right now, until I decide to re-fix. I may remove whole buckle and go with just wide Velcro eventually. not sure. may find a new replacement buckle(ratchet) set up?

Hello - I just posted a new post in the for sale forum. I have Coyote frames, parts, new sets of original Talus wheels... Let me know if you need something.