Any opinons on this kite? They seem a really good buy, especially as a first kite. Before I start to get a quiver ?

And what line length and strength should i fly one of these on?

Thanks,

David

Pretty sure not a good first kite...Pansh are a bit raw from the factory and tend to need to be dialed in which isn't so great for starting out...also I think kind of an aggressive design...IMO you'd be better served with a tried and true kite Co. Like PL, HQ, Ozone...
Their is a place for Pansh in ones quiver but...well, not first kite..first kite should be rtf...not you go figure it out
Amiritehere?

I got a Flux 5m as my first kite, but I'm about 240#, so I have a little "ballast". It's still tons of fun, and was big enough to put me on my face my first day out. Nothing dangerous, just enough to teach me a lesson.

This was literally the first time I had it (or any power kite) out of the bag (face-plant at 3:05) pardon the crap camera coverage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkjX9XlCay8

I got it ready-to-fly with lines (20m), handles and (pretty crappy) kite killers. I am really happy with all of it, for a first kite, except the weak bungies on the kite killers.

Pansh got itself reputation by manufacturing kites that require proper tuning before taken out to fly.
There are people who made useful wings out of them and Pansh is known to be cheap.

What do you plan to ride - ATB, buggy, snow or water?
Are you thinking of a 3m kite as of a trainer or an engine?

wondered how this post would go and end.
The blaze was to be an intermediate kite. The legend was the beginner kite and the ace was for the more experienced flyer. The AirlinK was the race kite.
from the beginning Pansh didnt care about quality and most kites didnt fly untill you tuned the kite yourself. They are better now but still not a "kite company" Pansh is a manufacturer for other kite companies. Pansh has an agreement with the others as to not copy, produce, and sell copyrite or trademarked kites.

If you have no money, cant find a good used kite, dont want to support a legitimate kite company, then you will want to support the biggest, pain in the kite world, Pansh. The blaze is an ok kite if it flys out of the bag. nothing to talk about or get excited for other than you got a heck of a deal. Not as good of a deal as Pansh, but he doesn't care as long as each sale puts 97% of the profit in his pocket. Customs declaration is a $15.00 toy, shipping included.:evil:

I had a 3m Blaze . I was a sucker for the great graphics. It wasn't bridled properly I and struggled to get the window edge. Ron H reworked the bridle and it flew OK. As mentioned, Pansh is getting better and better both with their product and quality control. Odds are very good your RTF kite will be RTF. Unfortunately their track record makes it hard to promise that.
Re-sale of a Pansh can be disappointing as well.

If you are on a budget I suggest you look for quality used kites. Like cars and such, kites drop in value as soon as they leave the shop. If you buy a quality 3m kite odds are pretty good you will hold on to it. If you must sell to upgrade you can re-sell good 3m used kites at very little loss other than shipping. Provided you keep good care of it.

Shop respectable kite forums used section. Watch out for Ebay. DON'T IMPULSE BUY!!!!!!! Ask about the kite on here before committing. People on this site want to help you avoid the costly mistakes we have made!

3m is the RIGHT size of kite to be looking for. It will fly early and as your skills build will actually become your high wind kite. Big enough to give you a work out when the wind picks up. Fast enough to fly in some very low winds.

Hmm.

Maybe that 3/4m Pansh Flux complete for $124 delivered is too good a bargain. I don't want to buy a kite that caused me lots of trouble. Will keep looking for a good 2nd one. Not many available here in NZ. Saw a 4.5m Flexifoil Bullet (V1) for a reasonable price, but seems a bit old. Then there is a 3.5m DP Power (not worth looking at either apparantly) and not much more.

I'v u2u'd a couple of people here on the forum, but freight seems to kill the deal.

Any solutions appreciated,

you purchase the flux and you will more than likely be unable to sell it later on for much more than a couple dollars.
I have a couple of brand new Pansh kites that have been in the trailer for over 8 years that will end up as a coat long before they ever see any air.

I don't think you'll enjoy a Pansh as a first kite. It's more of a kite to fool around on.

You can't go wrong with Peter Lynn, HQ, PKD, Flexifoil. To name a few: HQ Beamer, Flexifoil Rage, Peter Lynn Hornet, PKD Soulfly.

Stay in the 3-4m range for a first kite. That range allows you to fly in pretty high winds and also gives you a good lower end. It seems anything under wouldn't be flown much unless you have a constant gust of wind 15 mph + in your area, (if you want to have enough pull to scud).

3m is the baseline you want to be looking at. You will definitely get the most use out of it! Good luck!

I hear you. That cheaper kite sounds attractive to my budget, but wouldn't be the best kite to start with.

With a 3m 3 line trainer I can fly smooth and consistent inside and outside 8's easily, so I'm not a total newbie, just new to 4 line powerkites.

How would a 3.0m PL Hornet compare to 3.3m PKD Soulfly Pro?

What would you choose as your first powerkite from the above?

I can't seem to get flexifoil in NZ, and not many of the HQ powerkites, inc the beamer. So I am limited to what i can choose from.

Thanks for your ongoing help!!! Its appreciated!

A pair of Ozone Riots for $350 ? 3m & 5m. I haven't flown the smaller ones but I have the 9m Riot which seems a pretty solid kite. Info here: Ozone Riots

Do you have experienced pilots near you?

Pansh kites have gotten better and are usually bridled proper now. Odds are if you have a tuning issue it will only be in setting your fly / brake lines correct. NOT rocket science. Pretty simple for somebody who knows what they are doing to set for you. Even on your own, if you are willing to take the time we could talk you through tuning lines.

I suspect that Flux might be Kite Only ? IF it is an RTF package it may be worth thinking about. All the money you would lose on resale you save going in? The Flux may leave you wanting to upgrade that size of kite if you get serious. It is well enough made to serve you well until that point and will likely last even longer.

You get what you pay for in this sport. I rarely ever give a new pilot alone the go ahead for Pansh but if you can see the negatives and are willing to work around them this is actually a decent way to get going on the cheap? With fast fee delivery.

Yeah, I have experienced pilots locally, Every wednessday evening from 6-8pm there's a club "try out' session at my local beach, plenty of help on offer. That help, along with 22km of hard flat beaches = :D

Only 10 minutes from home too!

I see a "quiver" in my future...

A good kind member on this forum has offered me an Ozone Cult 3.5 for sale. It is in very good condition. Would this make a good first power kite for me?

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Reminder: 'Pansh' is also the sound Pansh kites make when they slam leading edge into the ground because the bridal was made wrong!

Pansh!...Oh crap....my kite just exploded.

I've had a couple of Pansh kites and they have all flown fine for me. I would not suggest the ace if they still make it. My Blaze 5m was a stable kite. The problem is that each one can be different. My Legend was a much more aggressive kite than what they described. If you can't afford anything else, then Pansh is the lowest level of quality I would choose. You don't want any of the cheaper or other knock off kites around. I haven't purchased one lately, so I can't speak to current quality.

Where is your 22 km of beach by the way?

22k of beach is Foxton Beach, New Zealand. You can easily go fom Foxton to Himitangi without crossing a stream, heading north. Other side of the Manawatu river also goes a long way..... So lots of area to explore around here, including dunes alongside... Once i get a suitable buggy.

Link to map of local beaches

Foxton Beach Area

23 km of smooth packed beach and you ask opinions about Pansh???
It's like having access to a race track and of all the cars you can choose to ride you'd pick a cheap, below average third-world made vehicle.

You've got a dream spot there, pick dream gear and have dream rides!

^^^^this, so this^^^^....hes right dream big

punch me in my face, that spot looks incredible. Only life or death situations should separate you from acquiring some wind fun

Yeah, I've got some good beaches close. Drive on access too, don't even need a 4wd. I don't want to spend too much on my first kite, got a buggy to build or buy yet.

But. THE answer to my first question is NO, not a Pansh Blaze for my first power kite. It will be a 3.5m Ozone Cult, brought from KamiKuza! Thanks! After that, who knows? But a 7m depower sounds nice.

Thanks all for your advice, I'll record my first flight when the kite arrives in a week or so, but it will be on a phone camera (on a tripod though) so we'll see about the quality and posting it.

Great choice! You'll enjoy the Ozone Cult. Looking forward to seeing your first flight. :D